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dazb Posted - 28/09/2009 : 19:16:51
Shelia is off to the vets on wednesday as she is poorly...

Not really sure wots up with her but she has a lump/swelling around her heart area...

You can see in the pic that she is slightly swollen...








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wolfspirit Posted - 08/10/2009 : 22:14:08
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

my main concern regarding breeding is for Sheila... the extra strain put on the heart while she's gravid and then laying....



That would be one of my worries to...


does the vet think it could go away Daz?


she is so lovely just like her dad..i hope she will be ok...
dazb Posted - 08/10/2009 : 17:29:05
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

my main concern regarding breeding is for Sheila... the extra strain put on the heart while she's gravid and then laying....



She has already laid successfully once about 16-ish eggs so hopefully it wouldnt be a big problem for her, but I will make sure she is in tip top condition to help reduce the risk...


quote:
Originally posted by xautomaticflowersx

At least if the problem was in a mammal they could prescribe some
furosemide to help with any buildup of fluid, but I doubt you could really administer a diuretic to a reptile. Particularly a snake, since they have such a slow metabolism.
At least you know what you're up against and you know to keep an eye on her. Will you have to give her smaller prey items (maybe multiples) to minimise the physical strain on that area?




From what I can understand there is no fluid build up at the moment. Just a oversized chamber.
She is almost fully grown I would say weighing in at 2450g's and is eating rats that weigh about 180g's max at the moment and doesnt seem to be having trouble in getting them down, also she loves her food so smaller multiple prey items wouldnt be a problem I wouldnt think.
xautomaticflowersx Posted - 08/10/2009 : 13:10:14
At least if the problem was in a mammal they could prescribe some furosemide to help with any buildup of fluid, but I doubt you could really administer a diuretic to a reptile. Particularly a snake, since they have such a slow metabolism.
At least you know what you're up against and you know to keep an eye on her. Will you have to give her smaller prey items (maybe multiples) to minimise the physical strain on that area?
Gingerpony Posted - 08/10/2009 : 10:01:00
my main concern regarding breeding is for Sheila... the extra strain put on the heart while she's gravid and then laying....
dazb Posted - 08/10/2009 : 08:29:55
TBH Anne its only noticable if your looking for it so I dont know how long it has been there myself and the previous owner may not have noticed it.

I spoke to the vet about breeding as I had told him that that was my plan for her, and he said he could see no reason as to not breed her.

There is no proof that it is a hereditary problem and could have been caused by a injury or developed over her life due to unknown circumstances. I have come to some likely conclusions myself as I do know some of her history and her body tells a story.

Thanks for all replys guy
wolfspirit Posted - 07/10/2009 : 23:40:03
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

Hi guys sorry I havent replyed sooner but only got the results today...

it turns out that 1 of her heart chambers (snakes have 3..) is enlarged/dilated. It is untreatable as not enough is known about snakes and may never cause her a problem through out her life, and upto now doesnt seem to have as she is eating well and has already laid eggs once.

The cause of it is impossible to say, but possible causes are injury, heart disease and also the chance it could be hereditary. As I have only had her a short time and dont know her full history it is impossible to say.



Thanks for the update Darren, did the vet give any idea of how long it has been like that?

the previous owner must have noticed it if it has been like that for some time...


So with the chance it can be carried over what will you do now, are you going to have to shelve your breeding plans for her?

if i had the space i would offer her a permanent non breeding home and you could get another, but i dont...
Gingerpony Posted - 07/10/2009 : 21:40:07
*hugs* babe
spor Posted - 07/10/2009 : 21:20:36
not what you wanted to hear i'm sure, but a relief to know? hopefully she will be able to lead a happy normal live regardless as you have said it doesn't seem to have bothered her.
lee2308 Posted - 07/10/2009 : 21:06:32
Not the best news daz,but she may still lead a normal life.Hope that is the case.
karl Posted - 07/10/2009 : 18:32:39
Unlucky mate, this scupper your chances of breeding her? Or are you still doing so? So long as she is ok in herself I suppose all is ok.
dazb Posted - 07/10/2009 : 17:36:36
Hi guys sorry I havent replyed sooner but only got the results today...

it turns out that 1 of her heart chambers (snakes have 3..) is enlarged/dilated. It is untreatable as not enough is known about snakes and may never cause her a problem through out her life, and upto now doesnt seem to have as she is eating well and has already laid eggs once.

The cause of it is impossible to say, but possible causes are injury, heart disease and also the chance it could be hereditary. As I have only had her a short time and dont know her full history it is impossible to say.
wolfspirit Posted - 07/10/2009 : 11:05:33
i keep checking this post..

Daz..whats happening with Sheila?
Gingerpony Posted - 07/10/2009 : 10:55:49
nothing yet
spor Posted - 07/10/2009 : 01:12:18
just wanted to check in with you to see if there was any news?
Gingerpony Posted - 05/10/2009 : 21:18:17
she's back in for scanning tomorrow so hopefully more news and an actual diagnosis then......... hope it goes ok babe *crosses everything*
Remmy Posted - 05/10/2009 : 17:47:02
Any news on Shelia Daz ?
karl Posted - 05/10/2009 : 13:52:54
any news Daz?
wolfspirit Posted - 02/10/2009 : 10:48:57
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

Cheers guys...

From wot I have read a enlarged heart is not that uncommon...and yes Anne the pericardium is the sack that surrounds the heart. It may have a build up of fluid in it that will need to be drained or treated...

By the way, vets are expensive...



yes they are..lol..but still cheaper than for dogs and cats by a long way...
karl Posted - 02/10/2009 : 10:30:35
wonder if you can get pet insurance for reps? or a collection as a whole? and yeah, having just had my dads dog break his leg in two places (£1800!!!) I can confirm vets are indeed expensive
dazb Posted - 02/10/2009 : 06:54:51
Cheers guys...

From wot I have read a enlarged heart is not that uncommon...and yes Anne the pericardium is the sack that surrounds the heart. It may have a build up of fluid in it that will need to be drained or treated...

By the way, vets are expensive...

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