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Jayde |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 20:52:05 I don't post too often, but I feel I need a little collaborative input on this one.
My 2012 Female Lesser has been with since the Portsmouth show back in October. She's taken the longest to settle in and fed at a total of 4 weeks. (Yes yes, I know that's nothing!!) Since then she has fed well, and takes a rat pup every 4-5 days. She currently weighs around 160-170g although she wasn't completely empty on last weigh in. She's in a faunarium, which if I remember rightly is the medium sized option (1 x 0.5 ft approx), Thermostat controlled mat, 2 hides, plenty of foliage and cover. Fresh water every few days, temperature stable and monitored using digital thermometers. Currently not having the best of sheds, which Im putting down to the temperatures in the house having a knock effect with the humidity due to 2.5 foot of snow outside!! So bathing and the damp pillow case tricks are in use, just the head, most awkward part, because.....
She is one aggressive son of a b!tch!!!
I don't mean she is just a bit fiesty or flighty because she is small and vision is even less great due to the shed. Some days its as bad as walking past her and her taking 2 or 3 strikes at the plastic. Handling has got to the point where it's a chore because once the lid is off, anything is fair game. I've yet to find a way of handling her that doesn't result in getting bitten (which isn't horrendous because she isn't a 12ft rock) but it does get to the point where enough is enough and I can't & don't want to brush off a few tags any more.
Now I know the automatic response to the claim of aggressive Royals, is frequent handling and they will calm, but alas there is an issue with this too!! I tried this, handling every to every other day, and the more you try, the more it seems to stress her out, causing her to strike out more. Plus this girl comes with tail shaking and a hiss like a foul mouthed cat. I've tried setting her down on various items of clothing that smell like me, attempting to let her rest on me, she's been moved to the quietest, least used part of the house and only being looked upon for water and food, the only thing I haven't done is move her into something bigger, but judging how she has been so far, I don't feel like this would be the best option. I've tested the theory of maybe she's still hungry by offering 2 rat pups at feeds, and larger prey items but she isn't interested and takes herself away once she has finished her first.
I'll also add that for the smallest royal I've ever had, she is surprisingly strong. There have been a few instances where she has been perched on top of her log hide and struck out as I've been there, and it has dislodged / knocked off the plastic lid off of the faunarium. I am OCD thorough with checking lids doors locks and wedges are all secure before walking away from any of my snakes, so I know that they weren't loose before hand. (FYI plastic locking handles/clip devices have now been places on each edge of the lid so that there is no possibility of her escaping)
Tonight, she had a bathe in the bath and in the less than 5 minutes of handling that was involved in moving her into the bath, out again and back into the faunarium, the bite total was 9/12 tries. Sore little fingers for me!
SO! Thoughts, suggestions, tips, ideas, would be most welcome at this point.
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Lotabob |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 00:31:38 She is eating, that is a good sign that she is not stressed out. Its not aggression though, its not actively seeking you out for a fight; its fear, she is scared, keeping that in mind is half the battle. I would suggest the other route, rather than handling, just be in the vicinity for say 10 minutes a day, open her up, do the waterbowl, ignore any striking, show that you pose no threat a few very gentle but deliberate touches from the sides providing she isn't striking all about her. Do it in low light too, bright lights can freak them out so just enough light to be able to see what you are doing. I'd also cover a good portion of the tub she is in with a towel, it might help with her reacting to you walking past. You could use the scent of you thing by putting a used sock into the tub, though I'm not sure why this would be effective, they live in your house, your smell is all around them anyway. Its just one of these things with keeping reptiles, most will see you as a threat until they can be sure otherwise, my guessing is she hasn't had much human interaction so its up to you now to do it. Good luck and keep us posted with how you get on or any techniques you find to work. |
herriotfan |
Posted - 22/01/2013 : 17:41:42 Has she always been so cross and grouchy? I only ask because I wondered if you use a different soap, shower gel, washing powder for your clothes or anything like that? Have you got a perfume she doesn't like? Is she having issues with the cleaning products you use in her faun? I know I'm picking at straws here but just trying to come up with ideas... It can't be very nice for you getting bitten all the time. I'd use gloves for a while until she's settled down. Not because of the 'being unsure' issue but just to give your fingers a chance to heal! I understand your frustration! |
Jayde |
Posted - 22/01/2013 : 12:22:34 Thanks for the input so for. I've got a glove but that only gets used for people who are unsure about handling them when they come round. If I get bitten, so be it, something you accept when you choose to have snakes, is my personal view, (yes it would be nice for her to stop!), my main concern is that something is stressing her out this much to make her react this way. What I'm "fed up" with is not being able to indentify what that is, because it makes me feel like a cr@p owner, not being able to provide her with whatever it is she is not getting ATM :/ Beginning to stress me out, but I can't go around nibbling people's fingers!! Lol |
jbarlow91 |
Posted - 22/01/2013 : 12:01:06 You could also try wearing gloves while getting her out till she calms down a bit and you have got your confidence back |
badwool |
Posted - 22/01/2013 : 10:51:01 i third a rub |
jbarlow91 |
Posted - 22/01/2013 : 06:53:01 As said I would put her in a 9l rub to help her feel more secure |
chrisc |
Posted - 22/01/2013 : 04:53:25 haha she sound's like fun. first thing i would try is setting her up in a RUB as the opaque side's may help clam her a bit if she can't see you as much plus the RUB will help with holding the humidity so she may shed better, you lose quite a bit of humidity through the vented lid with faun's |
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