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| hannah2016 |
Posted - 04/03/2012 : 21:20:50
Ok, so I noticed my royals little eye problem a week ago and have tryed some different methods. Iv tryed giving him a bath, putting a humide hide box in his viv, spraying his viv extra daily and it seems to only be getting worse. Its starting to look like its crusting/crinkling around the actual eye. Im starting to get really concerned. Heres a pic but its not the best as he just wouldnt stop moving. I thought it might be from a shes but I checked his last on and it had both eye caps intact.
Like I said it really isnt a good pic but you can see its crinkled conpared to other pics with eye close ups of him. Ill try to get some of the stuff in the sticky but other then that is there anything I can do to help him. |
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| Lotabob |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 21:46:39
It was mites. Does your snake have mites? |
| Jenniferc1985 |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:15:27
Hi there did you find out what was wrong with your royals eye and how is it now as I think my royal has the same thing thanks |
| Lotabob |
Posted - 13/03/2012 : 21:26:15
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Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake
Hi, Hannah ...I think it might be a good idea to get Koda to a specialist rep vet. Even if it's nothing much, would put your mind at rest.
All the best with him.
Yeah I do think that would be the best way to go or if rep vets are hard to come by see if your local shop will have a look though warn them about the mites as they might not want to interact with him in these circumstances but you can always check. |
| n/a |
Posted - 13/03/2012 : 21:05:24
Hi, Hannah ...I think it might be a good idea to get Koda to a specialist rep vet. Even if it's nothing much, would put your mind at rest.
All the best with him. |
| Lotabob |
Posted - 13/03/2012 : 20:36:01
Ouch, that does look nasty. It doesn't look like mite damage really, they tend to go for the edges not the middle so its a bit of a mystery. If the shed was complete and the eyecaps came off last shed then I dont know what to say. The shimmery bits surrounding the eye also seems to look a bit like retained shed starting behind the eye and running down the nose but if its complete at the last shed then thats not possible. Puzzled would be the answer lol. |
| hannah2016 |
Posted - 13/03/2012 : 20:25:13
I tryed feeding with no luck. Shame as I had just gotten him to eat then he got mites and hes now acting scared of the mice again. Day 2 and no mites. I took some better pics of his eyes as there worse but they do look like they may be peeling of at the side.
Of course there still not good but its the best iv been able to get a focus on.
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| n/a |
Posted - 12/03/2012 : 19:40:50
Hi, Hannah - that sounds good, and fingers crossed they don't return. I haven't seen any either, touch wood; she's still eating and has just gone into blue - she must be growing; although sheds may be more frequent with mites in an attempt to slough the things off, she's never missed a meal yet. Good luck to us both and glad you enjoyed Crufts! |
| hannah2016 |
Posted - 12/03/2012 : 19:20:55
just finished his treatment today and saw nothing on him or in his viv. gonna leave him a week with his regular treatments and if i still dont see anything im going to start soaking his stuff in disinfectant ready to go back in once a few weeks has passed. is yours all gone yet?
p.s yeah, crufts was good. just cant believe i keep spelling it with a k instead of a c, even though i been going of years lol |
| n/a |
Posted - 08/03/2012 : 23:51:49
It's certainly worked for Sulah - and, should you ever encounter the mites yourself, Bob (which heaven forbid) I would definitely recommend the stuff, whatever you may have heard. |
| Lotabob |
Posted - 08/03/2012 : 23:48:10
Never mind, I did not mean to imply you recommended anything ever and I'll just leave it at that rather than thread-jack to explain the reason behind the word small. The link was for the OP to get an idea of the enemy been faced, I remember showing you that one yonks ago. lol. Good to hear that Sulah is coming out the other side of mite-ness, poor thing (you and the snake) I honestly dont think many things strike fear into snake keepers more than snake mites. I'm not knocking Callingtons its good stuff. |
| n/a |
Posted - 08/03/2012 : 23:21:22
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Originally posted by Lotabob
As BATS says, Callingtons is highly recommended in small outbreaks of mites.
Yes you did, Bob.
and yes I've already read that Vida Preciosa link - very informative and good.
Even if all 14 of my lot get the mites, I'll still use Callingtons - but the good news (cross fingers and touch wood) is that Sulah is already free of the things, although obviously I'll observe precautions and keep treating for a while yet. |
| Lotabob |
Posted - 08/03/2012 : 23:07:01
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Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake
Will just take this opportunity to say I don't just recommend Callingtons' for SMALL outbreaks of mites as somehow got said in another post
I didn't say you recommended it, I said it is recommended. By small I mean affecting one or 2 snakes, I know of someone plagued with mites in his large collection and callingtons is not effective in his experience and then a stronger insecticide is required. If you remember Sandi and her mite issue she used a stronger treatment with great success too.
In this situation though of one snake Callingtons will be effective if treatment is kept up for longer than the mite lifecycle. This is an article about these little vampire bugs http://www.vpi.com/publications/the_life_history_of_snake_mites it may give you a better understanding of these critters and their behaviour, they have limitations and the best way to defeat them is to exploit these limitations. |
| n/a |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 17:17:23
You'll need to keep re-treating, as the larvae and eggs may stil be on the go, but never fear, with persistent treatment, you'll get there. Also it's a good idea to do a search and read up on as much info as possible about mite treatment.
With me using Callingtons', I'm going by their instructions and waiting till I see nothing for a month - a good guide I think. I've been very pleased with the results so far - detected nothing for the past 2 days, so fingers crossed and hoping.
Will just take this opportunity to say I don't just recommend Callingtons' for SMALL outbreaks of mites as somehow got said in another post - a small outbreak is a potentially large outbreak unless caught in time, and the Callingtons' I hope has nipped this one in the bud but even if all of my lot got the mites I'd still use the Callingtons', and Ardap too for the kit. But less of the worst case scenarios - fingers crossed for us both and do hope you too start to see results.
Another good thing is that you've traced the cause of the eye problem, hope he starts to improve now you've zapped the critters.
Have a good time at Crufts btw. |
| hannah2016 |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 16:33:29
unfortunatly im going away for a few days while at krufts, so i cant get my hands on any proper stuff. i got some spray as alast minuite thing from pets at home, but at lease its something. my parents (the haters of all things snakes) have said they will change water for me but thats it, so i cant do anything with him during that period of time. im going to feed him tonight (if he'll eat) and then use the spray and clean his viv properly in the morning when i have a little time. furtunatly i dont think he has that many and i bathed him yesterday (to his very much dislike) and drowned alot of them. i was even picking some dead out of his scales. while he was being bathed i got rid of everything and then hoved the viv out completly in all the little holes. i them soaked everything with disinfectnt and cleaned it all out. while doing this his one hide and water bowl where being soaked then disinfected. i dont have a tub to put him in, only very temparaly - like a couple of hours max. so ill just keep up with the baths and spray and disinfectant ect. how do i know when there all completly gone? |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 21:16:51
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Originally posted by hannah2016
right okay, so its not retained eye caps but i have just discovered something else. could mites have been the cause? i think he might have them as iv just go him out to have a look and theres these little bugs over him. look like moving bits of dirt. iv never had them before, so are they air born? because he didnt come with them and my other snakes dont have them? i dont understand, i cleaned his viv out at the weekend and now hes got yet another problem! do i get rid of the aspen and put him on news paper? could this be the cause of the eye problem?
Ah sorry Hannah - only just realised you're using aspen so it can't be critters in damp bark ...been a bit of a chaos day lol and I really was hoping it couldn't be mites ...heaven knows where mites come from. I have a theory you can pick the damn things up in the supermarket these days, but, once you have them ...arrgh.
Here is a link for the Callingtons - and DEATH to the mites lol.
http://www.surreypetsupplies.co.uk/callington-mite-spray-100g.html
All the very best x |
| Lotabob |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 21:14:51
Nah just less snakes lol. |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 19:40:16
You've got more room in your pad than me then, Bob. |
| Lotabob |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 19:33:40
Oh to mites but at least now you have a potential cause. Mites do target the eyes so its quite likely the damage you see is where the mites have been attacking the edges of the eyecap, you may also catch signs of mites and the little 'words with lots of ***'s in' around or even just inside the mouth, in the corners, they are looking for an easy meal so go for the vulnerable bits.
As BATS says, Callingtons is highly recommended in small outbreaks of mites. My personal plan of attack should the mites visit me is to strip out and throw out everything in the viv, give each snake a bath to ensure all mites are off them and rehome them into rubs far far away from the contaminated viv and surrounding areas. Then I can treat the affected vivarium and the area around it aggressively and if the bath has worked the snakes get to live somewhere else mite free. |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 17:34:15
Oh no ...does sound like mites - BUT -
Are you using orchid bark and are they like little sort of jumpy fly-y things? These are little bugs that live in the damp bark and are harmless.
If not, a pic on this thread shows a royal with crusty eyes due to mites -
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1320
I too have mites atm and have had very good results with the Callingtons spray -
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8220
All the very very best with him and this stuff does work - I got it from Surrey Pet Supplies and today couldn't see any trace of a mite, must update thread.
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| hannah2016 |
Posted - 06/03/2012 : 17:03:25
iv only seen like one or two of them on him when i got him out, so if i do as the care sheet says, will i be able to get rid fast? will it reduce the chance oth the other snake that i have in the same room getting them? |
