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| DarkRose |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 15:15:30
Hi, yesterday we discovered our female python has mites on her, we gave her a bath to see if we could clear them from her and cleaned out her viv, replacing her aspen for kitchen paper and washed everything. Which I know won't clear the mites but as its bank holiday we can't get any mite stuff until Wednesday at the earliest.
But my problem is that her viv (2ft) is next to another (2ft) and then on top of them is a 3ft viv. Is there any way to stop the mites spreading or is just hope and pray till Wednesday then treat all 3 vivs and snakes together?
From looking at her yesterday there wasn't that many on her, I think I killed 2 on my hands and I could see one under a scale on her chin which i couldnt get to, but there was no signs of them in her water bowl or anything.
Going to see if I can get some callingtons as I've heard that's the best stuff to use. |
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| DarkRose |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 22:52:07
Ok, thank you very much for your help. Just checked the male python and he's got them as well so assuming the cornsnake has too, so going to blitz all their vivs and hopefully we can get rid of them soon as we have 2 hatchlings arriving end of the month. |
| n/a |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 22:31:34
Oh ps - what to do with them - just give a box, rub or whatever a quick zap of callingtons' - give a snake a box each once fumes have cleared, and then you can get on with spraying the vivs. Snakes might get a bit bored, but they'll be fine! |
| n/a |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 22:28:04
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Originally posted by DarkRose
So do I need to get hold of some Ardap as well or will the callingtons be enough? Not sure what to do with 3 snakes while the vivs are being fumed! What do you spray the callingtons on and what do you spray the Ardap on? Is there any way of hurting the snake or poisioning (apart from water bowl, which will be removed for 24hrs) it by spraying decor or do you take it all out first?
Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I got it all right before I try as I don't want to hurt the snakes.
Ardap comes in handy - it's actually a stronger version of Callingtons from what I gather, but it should only be used to treat snake kit, not, as with Callingtons', the viv that the snake is going straight back into.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quiko-Pet-Parasite-Control-Ardap/dp/B002IS9MJM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338844975&sr=8-1
Pity as it's a hell of a lot cheaper.
I've described all I did in that thread although not saying that's the only way - just what worked for me.
Good luck and hope you blast the little bleeders soon! |
| blackskull |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 21:37:19
when i had mites i stripped the viv, put the snake in a tub. cleaned the viv used newspaper as a substrate and cardboard boxes as hides. sprayed the viv with callingtons left for 10mins then put the snake back in. i also sprayed frontline on the carpet around the viv.
with the decor i wased it in hot water with bleech left to dry then put it in a bin bag gave it a blast of callingtons then tied the top shut.
i left all decor out just kept it minimal in the viv then repeat the process after a week. left for another week re cleaned the viv then put all decor back in.
this worked for me |
| DarkRose |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 21:29:34
So do I need to get hold of some Ardap as well or will the callingtons be enough? Not sure what to do with 3 snakes while the vivs are being fumed! What do you spray the callingtons on and what do you spray the Ardap on? Is there any way of hurting the snake or poisioning (apart from water bowl, which will be removed for 24hrs) it by spraying decor or do you take it all out first?
Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I got it all right before I try as I don't want to hurt the snakes. |
| n/a |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 21:00:07
Nope. My fat old cats don't do flycatching.
New cat Molly is a bit more enterprising but even she doesn't really go for flies the way she goes for screwed up paper, snakeskins and my ankles. In any case I don't like the idea of her nomming on dirty bluebottles.
My Siamese used to be the best ever - their favourite prey was crane flies (daddylonglegses.) Trouble was, they'd shoot all over the room, up on top of wardrobes, everywhere, and crash floorwards with a dll in their mouth, legs and wings whirring.
Then they'd lay it carefully on the floor to play with ...and the dll would giggle and zoom ceilingwards again ...
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| Lotabob |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 20:35:37
You have cats BATS they are fly control. lol. My dog goes mental when flies come in, he always catches them too and eats them.
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| n/a |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 17:05:58
I'd sooner spray all round the vivs including back vents (as I was advised to do - forgot that) THEN hoover - you don't want live mites or eggs thriving in the vacuum innards. Mind you you could spray the inside of the vacuum with Callingtons or Ardap - I even sprayed the inside of the binbags that contained Sulah's cleanings. Ardap mustn't go near the snakes but once kit sprayed with it has dried and aired, it's safe.
Have seen olive oil baths recommended, and I was prepared to do this as olive oil stifles and kills mites, but fortunately the Callingtons' and Ardap did the trick.
Oh, and I handled my other snakes as little as possible, only went into their vivs for feeding and cleaning and water changing. Poor loves, but it proved worth it.
A little off-topic, but I have dogs in the yard across from me, and when a bluebottle comes in, as they do, I hate to think where it's been. So now I Ardap the tops of the downstairs windows every six weeks (a heavy quilt over the fishtank and as much ventilation as poss until fumes disperse.) I don't need to chase and kill flies any more - that stuff is marvellous! |
| DarkRose |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 16:35:29
Another quick question, once I've sprayed the vivs and gone back to basic, do I need to treat or do anything to the snakes or will the callingtons sort everything out?
Just asking as I've read various things about bathing them in neat olive oil, bathing them in warm water with a few drops of olive oil or washing up liquid. All I done yesterday was fill a tub up with warmish ( temp of her hot side) water and let her have a swim in there for about 10 mins. Not sure what's best to do for her. |
| DarkRose |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 16:30:18
I'm assuming that if one has them then its likely the other 2 have. I haven't checked the other 2 yet as they only fed the other night so I didn't want to disturb them yesterday. As its been 48hrs tonight then I will get them out and have a check to see if I can see any. If I don't see any then I think I will give theirs vivs a spray anyway just to make sure.
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| Lotabob |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 16:24:48
If its in one it is very likely already in all three so stopping them spreading will be a fruitless pursuit. You'd be as well to strip everything out of all of the vivariums and go basic with all of them, treat them all the same. You can break their life cycle without chemicals but nuking them is always going to be quicker. Also hoover all around the vivariums they are quite mobile. Callingtons seems to be the go-to treatment for mites, I still wouldn't fancy spraying the snake though even if they say you can. |
| n/a |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 16:21:20
Hi, welcome to the forum and sorry to hear about the dreaded mites!
This is my story, hope it gives you a bit of info -
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8220&SearchTerms=call+for+the+callingtons
Yeah, it's unfortunate all the vivs are together, personally, in this case, I'd treat a rub or box with Callingtons' (about 2 seconds' burst, if that) and wait 15 minutes or until there's no fumes.
Then put the snake in it and (this is going against conventional guides) treat the whole viv without clearing. 6 seconds' burst, if that, and of course remove water for 24 hours to avoid any residual fumes contaminating it. Again return snake when fumes clear.
In a week's time, when the next treatment of Callington's is due, you can clear the viv of substrate etc and hopefully all mites in substrate or furniture will have been zapped - so you're not spreading them through the house and giving the damn things chance to roost in crevices and come back to the snakes again.
I sort of evolved this method through out my treatment of Sulah and it does seem to have worked.
Then you go on treating until you're 4 weeks' clear ...and breathe a sigh of relief!
Yeah I've heard that you can spray the snake direct, but have never done this, just the in-viv treatment, which I like, as it means you don't have to mess the snake about too much.
Good luck, fingers crossed! |
| Evolution Morphs |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 15:30:50
everyone raves about callingtons and now its marketed to spray on the snake as well
not must i guess you can do to stop them from spreading
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