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wolfspirit
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Posted - 26/06/2009 :  23:28:47  Show Profile


Right i am on the trail of a female royal..

she is already at breeding weight....has never been bred from

but there is a problem...

she only eats chicks..

wont touch rats and will occasionally eat a mouse..

how hard would it be to get her off chicks?

and if i did take her and could not get her off them, would she suffer health wise from just eating these?

i would think they are not very nutritious, but need enlightening..

maybe a multi might do the trick..




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sexychef
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Posted - 26/06/2009 :  23:32:42  Show Profile  Click to see sexychef's MSN Messenger address
i have heard chicks are very addictive so be weary of mood swings and come downs lol. as for the nutrition i think they have a high% of fat maybe you could inject more into them but i dont know how lol



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 26/06/2009 :  23:35:06  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by sexychef

i have heard chicks are very addictive so be weary of mood swings and come downs lol. as for the nutrition i think they have a high% of fat maybe you could inject more into them but i dont know how lol



i dont know...

i suppose i could if all else failed go live...but i have to get her first...

have sat here waiting all night for an answer as to whether i have her or not..and i am still waiting..




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sexychef
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Posted - 26/06/2009 :  23:35:58  Show Profile  Click to see sexychef's MSN Messenger address
darkside offering?



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 26/06/2009 :  23:38:18  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by sexychef

darkside offering?



no, she is from someone on another forum...



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sexychef
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Posted - 26/06/2009 :  23:40:42  Show Profile  Click to see sexychef's MSN Messenger address
have you seen her or just pics?



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 26/06/2009 :  23:49:40  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by sexychef

have you seen her or just pics?



no and no..lol





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sexychef
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Posted - 26/06/2009 :  23:50:28  Show Profile  Click to see sexychef's MSN Messenger address
i am thinking most her body wieght maybe fat thats all



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dazb
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Posted - 26/06/2009 :  23:51:17  Show Profile
remember...even offering live may not work...live is not always the answer. imagine the size of prey needed or the amount of smaller prey needed to sustain a breeding weight female.

If it was me i would slowly convert her to rats, but it could take a long time.



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 27/06/2009 :  00:00:14  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

remember...even offering live may not work...live is not always the answer. imagine the size of prey needed or the amount of smaller prey needed to sustain a breeding weight female.

If it was me i would slowly convert her to rats, but it could take a long time.



yeah i know, that would be almost the last option...
just going through it in my head first...lol..



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dazb
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Posted - 27/06/2009 :  00:02:16  Show Profile
I think it would be a project snake rather than a breeder...if she doesnt swap or takes a long time she may not be ready for breeding in jan...



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 27/06/2009 :  00:07:16  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

I think it would be a project snake rather than a breeder...if she doesnt swap or takes a long time she may not be ready for breeding in jan...



from what i can gather, she stopped feeding last year and was reintroduced using chicks, but the owner has not got her back onto rats..

i might not take her yet....but i am thinking multis instead and see if that might work..but it is all ifs and buts right now cos i have not heard back from him yet...

I have to get a female i can breed from, i am on a promise..lol..



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dazb
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Posted - 27/06/2009 :  00:10:42  Show Profile
just remember that she may not get there...i got my female in november thinking she would be ready for this year and she may not be...thats fussy feeders for you...



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matty18714
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Posted - 27/06/2009 :  09:08:20  Show Profile
I agree with Daz, even if you do get the snake I would want it eating rats for a few months to make sure it was in good shape (as well as quarentine).

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lee2308
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Posted - 27/06/2009 :  11:01:07  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
you love these problem snakes anne,or are you just getting a taste for live feeding if you did get it you would have to try a chick jacket on a rat

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 27/06/2009 :  11:42:31  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by lee2308

you love these problem snakes anne,or are you just getting a taste for live feeding if you did get it you would have to try a chick jacket on a rat



every animal that has come into this house has come with a problem..lol..

think i must attract it or something....

but i also like a challenege with them to try and turn them around..



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reptiles-ink
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Posted - 27/06/2009 :  11:57:09  Show Profile
A good method for chick eaters is skin a chick and wrap it round a rat, this way it looks and smells like a chick so they take it.
I have had some that would only take chicks and they even strike feed on them this way.

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karl
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Posted - 27/06/2009 :  20:13:15  Show Profile  Visit karl's Homepage
chicken suits ftw

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 27/06/2009 :  20:50:20  Show Profile


dont know if i am getting her now...

have just been offered two females..going to see them Tuesday or Wednesday and they are local..

sorry and thanks for the info on the chicks..lol..



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 28/06/2009 :  17:22:33  Show Profile
Ok, i am going to throw this open for discussion when i come back online later..i am not sure what to do, and this is what i just sent Piers so posting here to

i have a choice of two female royals aged 30 months i am supposed to be picking them up on Thursday... but the more i am learning the more i am not sure cos the bloke just said to me, if you feed them up they will make breeding weight next year...surely that would be the wrong thing to do? i mean feeding them up...

i just asked him weights..

also this is the other one..

female who currently will only eat chicks, she is 4 years old never been bred from..

what would you do?




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Blackecho
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Posted - 28/06/2009 :  17:23:31  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
I replied to your PM too, but it depends how much they weigh now really.



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