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Snakecharmer
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
16 Posts

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  10:18:36  Show Profile
Hi all, discovered this site while searching for lighting info for my babies. I have owned snakes now for 7-8yrs, started with a check garter snake and have owned a corn, bull snake, Royal python and a King snake. Currently i have 2 Royals.


Currently i have them housed in 2 vivs


I am in the process of building this to house them both,

What do you think?

Oh and sorry for the long first post lol

lee2308
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2597 Posts

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  10:28:28  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address
hi mark and welcome to the forum,there is also a sister site www.thekingsnake.co.uk if your interested. oh great snakes by the way

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Edited by - lee2308 on 24/01/2009 10:29:20
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  10:59:49  Show Profile
hi and welcome...

the new viv looks good. are you gonna house them together?



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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
5741 Posts

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  11:45:16  Show Profile
Hi and welcome



"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown





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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2016 Posts

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  18:42:25  Show Profile
Hello

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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  19:30:29  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address
Hello and welcome . Is that last pic the Bull? I've been looking into getting one of those myself. Are they much hassle?

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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  20:33:15  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
heya and welcome

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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ryzi
Yearling

United Kingdom
129 Posts

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  23:22:33  Show Profile
hi and welcome

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Snakecharmer
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
16 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  09:53:22  Show Profile
Thanks for the welcome guys

Paulusworm - The last pic is my Eastern King, a great feeder and active snake. I only had the pleasure of owning this snake for a few months. He was 'rescued', you could say. The previous owner housed him for several months in an enclosed fish tank with a bare incandescant bulb, resulting in a lot of burns across the full lenght of his body. A great snake and lots of pleasure for the time i owned him.

Unfortunately i do not have pics of the bull, another nice but aggressive snake, Big diamond head and puffed up and made like a Rattlesnake noise with its throat when it got spooked, great to see but keep out the way lol.
Heres a pic from google


dazb Thanks, yeah they will both be housed together, they have been introduced a few times together on the floor and quite happily ignore each other lol.
My only concern is the size differnce between the two, one being 7-9mnth older.


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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

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Posted - 25/01/2009 :  09:55:07  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
Welcome to the forum.



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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  11:12:40  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Snakecharmer

dazb Thanks, yeah they will both be housed together, they have been introduced a few times together on the floor and quite happily ignore each other lol.
My only concern is the size differnce between the two, one being 7-9mnth older.





you probably know all the pro's and con's of housing snakes together so i will not go on.

wot sex are they?



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KrazyKerry
Hatchling

United Kingdom
57 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  11:23:13  Show Profile
New viv looks great


0.1.0 Amel Motley corn : CORAL
0.0.1 Ghost corn: CASPER
1.0.0 Royal Python: BLAZE
1.0.0 Yemen chameleon: CHONG
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko: CLEO
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Snakecharmer
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
16 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  12:57:26  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

quote:
Originally posted by Snakecharmer

dazb Thanks, yeah they will both be housed together, they have been introduced a few times together on the floor and quite happily ignore each other lol.
My only concern is the size differnce between the two, one being 7-9mnth older.





you probably know all the pro's and con's of housing snakes together so i will not go on.

wot sex are they?



Both males, they have not been probed so could still surprise me. Iirc males one 'spike', females two?
The smaller of the two was the second acquired and we had hoped it would be female. So they are going in together and the spare vivs used for cleaning times and hopefully purchasing a female in the future.

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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  13:36:23  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message
If you've owned snakes for 7-8 years then I'm sure you're aware of the risks of housing snakes together, especially of a different size and even more so with unsexed immature snakes. Is there a reason you've chosen this route?



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Snakecharmer
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
16 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  14:25:41  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

If you've owned snakes for 7-8 years then I'm sure you're aware of the risks of housing snakes together, especially of a different size and even more so with unsexed immature snakes. Is there a reason you've chosen this route?



Yeah i,m aware, but by no means knowladgeable on the subject, i have seen it with plenty corns. I just think a couple of snakes look good together. I will be taking precautions and have been introducing them over a few weeks now. I in no way want to lose any of these snakes and if there is the slightest sign of this happening they will be back into seperate vivs.
My King on the other hand would eat any snake that came within striking distance.
It is something i would like to try and appreciate any advice or comments.

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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  14:40:39  Show Profile
the main points are;

passing dieseaes, such as mites etc to each other,
they could put each other of their food,
how do you know which one has pooped or regurged,
if the are the opposite sexes, would the female get pregnant too early and become egg bound and probably die. i have read that people have successfully bred males at 400g.
would 2 males become territorial (not sure on this on myself with royals)

all of the above are points to be considered. alot of people do house snakes in pairs with no problems and alot of people have housed snakes together and encounted problems. it is a topic with lots of different opions both for and against.

It is all about personal choice...






Edited by - dazb on 25/01/2009 14:43:16
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  20:48:06  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
ok this is 6 pages long but well worth the read so you can make an informed decision regarding cohabiting
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1070

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  20:49:06  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
i do actually know somebody who's Royal ate it's housemate overnight (and regurged him the following day)

Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2016 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  20:58:42  Show Profile
Lets be honest though, cohabiting just isnt worth it

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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2663 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  21:28:17  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
i'm not saying viv sharing is outright wrong, i cohabit my 1.1 adult corns and 0.2 juvenile corns, however, there's no way on earth i'd cohabit 2 kings...........
on the other hand, both of Pauline's Royals were quite evenly matched in age, size and weight and a 1.1 pair................

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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2016 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  22:34:08  Show Profile
I can see why people cohabit, and the aesthetics of it are great, but I can imagine that horrible feeling in my stomache when I go to check on them and there is only one. That being said, the risk is quite small (especially with adults), but I personaly wouldnt take it. Each to their own.

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