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naz
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 16/09/2010 : 11:08:51
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Ok i would like a female spider royal next year as this season gone, My only question is about the head wobble i have seen vids of it and it looks horrible, Does any one know why they have it and also can it be treated if they have it. One vid i saw looked like it was flipping right over , What damage does this do to the snake?. I was wanting a bumble bee so was thinking of trying to bred my own in a few years but does that mean the head wobble goes into the bee, Thanks in advance for any help  |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/09/2010 : 11:26:33
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No it can't be treated and yes it would in any morph that contains the Spider gene. This is the sole reason I don't and won't have any in my collection.
They are known to be good feeders and breeders though. |
 
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naz
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2010 : 11:32:01
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| Is there any other way of breeding a bee with out using a spider ? |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2010 : 12:29:53
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| No, but you could make a Lemon Blast which is Pinstripe and Pastel rather than Spider and Pastel and I think they're even nicer. |
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naz
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2010 : 12:37:46
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| sounds nice maybe go for that then, i just panick to much about me animals, i took my first royal to the vet as he keept opening his mouth alot turns out he was just yawning lol |
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mischang
Yearling
United Kingdom
482 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2010 : 13:12:58
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Originally posted by naz
sounds nice maybe go for that then, i just panick to much about me animals, i took my first royal to the vet as he keept opening his mouth alot turns out he was just yawning lol
ah bless ya but better safe than sorry |
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Robert
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
957 Posts |
Posted - 18/09/2010 : 20:32:00
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| I have a spider male and he only wobbled his head at feeding time and has grown out of that and is fine at all other times |
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2010 : 03:36:24
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I have a spider that fathered 2 bees. My spider doesn't do that corkscrewing thing. Yes, all spiders have a wobble but MOST spiders do not manifest it noticeably. For example, my spider manifests his wobble ONLY when in strike mode - that is, when staring down a rat. His head vibrates very slightly just like the "shakes" in the movie Johnny Mnemonic right before the strike-coil movement. This "shake" is not present in any of my other snakes.
The 2 bees he produced show no wobbles at all.
Most spiders show their wobble through nothing but an inaccurate strike or nothing but a "cute puppy" cockeyed pose when periscoping. The amount of wobble does not pass through breeding. A corkscrewy spider can produce an inaccurate striker and vice versa.
Spiders are notoriously excellent eaters. My spider eats consistently every 7 days except for the time we had humidity issues in his tank.
So, for me, if I had to choose between my finicky-eating pastel and my spider, I'll take the spider any day.
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Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2010 : 08:36:48
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Valhalla, my normal, has a tendancy to shake her head from left to right really fast when she's being introduced to a mouse, like she's saying "Nooooo!" Any chance she's het for spider or would the chaps at the store have tested for it when they rescued her from previous owner?
She might just be a little bit weird :P |
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2010 : 13:47:18
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Originally posted by Kelfezond
Valhalla, my normal, has a tendancy to shake her head from left to right really fast when she's being introduced to a mouse, like she's saying "Nooooo!" Any chance she's het for spider or would the chaps at the store have tested for it when they rescued her from previous owner?
She might just be a little bit weird :P
There's no such thing as het for spider. Spider gene is dominant - you only need one parent to pass the gene to have a spider, So, it's either a spider or it''s not.
Wobbles aren't exclusive to spiders. Any other morph can have a wobble. The difference is, not all ____ morph has a wobble while all spiders have a wobble. Make sense? |
Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2010 : 13:56:47
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| oh awesome, I was a bit worried for a bit xP |
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