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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
 Posted - 24/07/2012 : 21:48:08
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| any advice on which i should get? i need to start sorting out how im going to house my new python when i eventually get her and maybe another 2 eventually but im not sure which would be best, i know a viv stack would cost more to set up initially and a rack would work out alot cheaper and have the capacity for way more snakeys but im worried about keeping temps in winter as they will be in a large room that isnt the warmest in winter so what do you think would be best or any tips on keeping temps in rubs at the required level without having my gas bills go through the roof? i was thinking of an oil filled electric radiator but not sure how well this would work any other ideas are very welcome |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 24/07/2012 : 22:27:01
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| Its personal preference. I prefer vivariums but Racks are also perfectly acceptable and the hot end will always be hot so temps aren't a massive problem even though it wont hold the ambient as warm as a vivarium. |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 24/07/2012 : 22:35:14
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| So it would be ok to have my room heated to about 20 degrees rather than try to heat my whole house to 25, i know the rack is cheaper by far as i worked out it would cost me £217 for what i need and the vivexotic stack is £200 alone my only worry was the temps |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 24/07/2012 : 23:16:44
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| Yeah I dont think anyone who has a rack heats their house to 25oC, I'd melt at that temp, lol. |
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acd1984
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
687 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2012 : 15:09:47
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| base it on the amount of snakes you have, if you plan on building your collection, a rack would certainly be cheaper |
1.0.0 Lesser - Helios
2.0.0 Normal - George & Kairo
1.0.0 Mojave - Bolt
0.1.0 Mojave - Roxi
1.0.0 Leopard Gecko - Leo
0.0.1 Crocodile gecko - Pheonix
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1197 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2012 : 20:52:27
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| I`ve built my own racks and used RUBS from Staples, i use heat mats and a pulse stat. I keep the lids on the rubs and have have never noticed any change in the temps so have never worried about the room temp. I would be more concerned with freekishly hot weather especially if your Viv or rubs were in direct view of the windows. |
Royals owned "lots"
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2012 : 21:09:42
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| is that a profesional rack? |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2012 : 21:10:22
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| oh and i eventually want lots lol |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2012 : 21:13:38
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Yea it's a vision v70 I got second hand
I'd have liked a LP 3 rack but this came up at a decent price
I still have a 12 x 50l euro rack and that's good
Euro rack have upgraded there design and is brilliant
Saw one at the Norwich show
I'd recommend a euro rack
Good price , free delivery, super bloke to deal with, |
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Cookie
Yearling
United Kingdom
205 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2012 : 23:58:39
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| Jeez went onto that visionproducts site, they say they're the cheapest for racks, I hope not lol... I'll just be trying to build mine... it has to be cheaper than buying a pro one. |
1.2.0 Royal Pythons (Sebastian, Romeo & Gypsy)
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2012 : 06:54:12
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| I was looking into building one using a wardrobe shell from idea and heat mats and pulse stats and it worked out at 217 pound just the price of rubs to add on |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1197 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2012 : 15:15:45
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Originally posted by carlb1981
I was looking into building one using a wardrobe shell from idea and heat mats and pulse stats and it worked out at 217 pound just the price of rubs to add on
MDF maybe cheaper, go to B&Q with your measurements and buy the largest sheets and they will cut to size. |
Royals owned "lots"
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Cookie
Yearling
United Kingdom
205 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2012 : 17:24:38
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£217 is dear enough too... I'm hoping to get a 2nd hand wardrobe as well and try make my own. Failing that think I will try B&Q for MDF as hodgie has suggested. I had hoped to get breeding this year, but time is running out so doubt I'll have to wait til next year :(
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1.2.0 Royal Pythons (Sebastian, Romeo & Gypsy)
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2012 : 18:42:53
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| That £217 is including 5 large heat mats that go from one side of wardrobe to the other and 2 pulse prop stats the wardrobe itself is 55 quid then 12 quid per pair of shelves i didnt think that was too bad a price and not much dearer than you'd pay for materials from the likes of b&q and withthe ikea one all the holes and things for fitting are pre drilled |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2012 : 19:12:14
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| Just had a look at b&q online to compare prices just for anyone thinking of making one the ikea wardrobe frame and shelves actually works out cheaper and is wider than what you can make from conti board unless you use multiple pieces for the back as the widest conti board is 600mm and ikea wardrobe is 998mm just big enough to fit a viv in the bottom lol |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Fezza
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1063 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2012 : 19:55:34
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Pro racks will always keep a residual value, you could use it for years and still make some money when you come to sell it. Homemade racks go for next to nothing if anything at all
Something to take into account |
1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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jonoandapril
Yearling
United Kingdom
455 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2012 : 09:24:27
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| i preffer racks. its alot better on space. i built mine for about 250 quid (i think it was anyway, its been a while) and it holds 12 x 50L rubs. its the only way my wife would let me get more snakes cuz they were taking over the back room lol |
1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python |
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rockroyal
Yearling
United Kingdom
470 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2012 : 19:02:19
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| do royals feel more secure in rubs??? |
3.1.0 royal python
2.0.0 corn snake
0.1.0 western hognose
0.1.0 bci
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Pythonwizard
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
650 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2012 : 20:32:48
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| do you need one thermostat for 1 mat |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2012 : 07:13:28
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| No you can run multiple mats from one stat as long as they don't exceed the max wattage of the stat |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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rack or stack?
