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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2012 :  14:51:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since buying Sid, I have definitely been bitten by the RP bug and already planning on getting a second (and more).
For the time being I'm designing a new viv for 2 royals. To save space I'm gonna stack them. The design will be cabinet (for storage space), viv, shelving, viv...which should make the whole thing about 76" tall.
Out of curiosity would a 3' x 2' x 2' too big for a royal? And would they use a 'basking' ledge?
Also, I've never used ceramic bulbs as a heat source...is there anything I have to think about (barring a cage) when planning it's design, ie. how much height from the bottom of the viv? etc

Cheers

Andy

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/08/2012 :  14:52:07  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
3x2x2 is perfect for a royal :) I can't think of anything else you'd need to know

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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2012 :  15:06:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cheers buddy :)

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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/08/2012 :  15:19:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Building your own viv is so much fun and rewarding. The only thing I would say is plan for the heat rising through from the bottom vivarium into the top one, you can build a air gap into your design to allow the heat to disperse or insulate the roof in some way. I went for a design that disperses the heat away from the other vivariums by off setting the vivariums.


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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2012 :  15:57:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was thinking about a double layer of polystyrene roll (2mm think, making 4mm total thickness) before building the shelving/access unit

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AndyJ80
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United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2012 :  17:44:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
anyone able to recommend a decent glazier for the glass?

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Lotabob
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Posted - 26/08/2012 :  19:29:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The cost of moving glass is very high, its heavy and delicate so I would say the cheapest glass you will find will be a local glazier. I shopped around and glazed my huge stack for £55 (9 bits of glass).

Go for 6mm toughened with the sharp edges taken off.

For fixtures and fitting etc I use this fella on Ebay http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/yeleas/?_trksid=p4340.l2559 very cheap and all the stuff i have got has been top quality.


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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2012 :  19:32:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers buddy :)

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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2012 :  13:56:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Building the vivs have started...should be finished by tomorrow (ish)

Now the hunt begins for a Het Red Axanthic Pastel female...not asking much am I lol
or...
A pastel and a fire

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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2012 :  17:22:53  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AndyJ80


Now the hunt begins for a Het Red Axanthic Pastel female...not asking much am I lol
or...
A pastel and a fire



lol that all depends on your funds as Cpr have a pastel lesser het red axanthic het hypo for just shy of £1700 or if you can make do with a lesser het red axanthic for a 3rd of that or a spider het red axanthic for less than 400

http://www.crystalpalacereptiles.com/index.php?option=com_redshop&view=category&cid=31&layout=detail&Itemid=55

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
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0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
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0.3.7 Tarantulas
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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2012 :  17:54:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oooo I think I have found my new royal :)

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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2012 :  17:58:24  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Do tell lol

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
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1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
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Cookie
Yearling

United Kingdom
205 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2012 :  18:21:48  Show Profile  Visit Cookie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey Andy are you going to post any pictures of your viv when finished? :0)

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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2012 :  18:46:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will post pics when it's finished. I'm making the 2 vivs first then the cabinet and shelving, so the posts will be in sections when I've done them.

I'm gonna need to build more vivs... the list has grown (and one is way too expensive, so has been removed lol) to:
Bumblebee
Pastel
Fire

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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2012 :  19:00:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AndyJ80

Will post pics when it's finished. I'm making the 2 vivs first then the cabinet and shelving, so the posts will be in sections when I've done them.

I'm gonna need to build more vivs... the list has grown (and one is way too expensive, so has been removed lol) to:
Bumblebee
Pastel
Fire



First breed would be the Bumblebee x Fire...giving me a 1/8 chance of these
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/fire-bee/

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Cookie
Yearling

United Kingdom
205 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2012 :  19:44:21  Show Profile  Visit Cookie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Happy days looking forward to seeing some pics :0)

Aww i love Bumblebees, and them Fire Bees look Awesome dude!! I'll have my fingers crossed for ya!

I had hoped to breed this year too but my money tree has withered away lol.. So looks like I'll have to wait til next year! :0(

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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2012 :  20:42:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers mate, I too have my fingers crossed lol

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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 28/08/2012 :  14:19:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Am I going a bit OTT with this build....

I'm thinking of ordering a moonlight LED lighting system and a double light cycle unit for fluorescent bulbs to simulate day and night cycle along with a microclimate B2ME thermostat to also mimic the temperature differences, making a staggering £160 on just lighting and heating!



EDIT: per viv

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LittlestarRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
197 Posts

Posted - 28/08/2012 :  19:12:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good luck with the build! Glad it's going well and you're enjoying it! :)

I have my viv's on pulse controlled ceramic heating and light them using colour change LED's so I can have daytime as white or yellow depending on how bright it is outside and then turn to red or switch off completely at night.

As for wanting more Royals, you'll always want more! LOL

I'll have a little female Bumblebee up for sale soon ;) haha!

Royals:1.2 Normals 'Hector'(He's my Baby! lol),'Lily' & 'Satan',0.1 Albino 'Alice', 0.2 Bumblebees 'Belle' & 'unnamed', 0.1 Pinstripe 'Stripy', 1.0 Pastel het Albino 'Pasty' 1.0 HG Woma 'Helix' & 0.1 Lesser 'Honey' 1.0 Enchi 'Max',0.1 Pewter Fader 'Pandora' and 1.0 Clown 'Krusty'. Others: 0.1 Corn 'Nagini', 1.0 BRB 'Juju', 1.0 Honduran BCI 'Lucius', 1.1 Beardies 'Beanie and Snuggle' and 1.0 Yemen Chameleon 'Jasper'(a.k.a Hissy Fusspot).
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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 28/08/2012 :  19:26:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LittlestarRed

I'll have a little female Bumblebee up for sale soon ;) haha!


Keep me in mind please :-)

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LittlestarRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/08/2012 :  20:06:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AndyJ80

quote:
Originally posted by LittlestarRed

I'll have a little female Bumblebee up for sale soon ;) haha!


Keep me in mind please :-)



I will, she's due a feed tomorrow. *edit* I have just taken some pics and I'll post them so you can see her. Look out for them in the pictures thread tomorrow!

Royals:1.2 Normals 'Hector'(He's my Baby! lol),'Lily' & 'Satan',0.1 Albino 'Alice', 0.2 Bumblebees 'Belle' & 'unnamed', 0.1 Pinstripe 'Stripy', 1.0 Pastel het Albino 'Pasty' 1.0 HG Woma 'Helix' & 0.1 Lesser 'Honey' 1.0 Enchi 'Max',0.1 Pewter Fader 'Pandora' and 1.0 Clown 'Krusty'. Others: 0.1 Corn 'Nagini', 1.0 BRB 'Juju', 1.0 Honduran BCI 'Lucius', 1.1 Beardies 'Beanie and Snuggle' and 1.0 Yemen Chameleon 'Jasper'(a.k.a Hissy Fusspot).

Edited by - LittlestarRed on 28/08/2012 20:29:14
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