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clodove-xx
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
27 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  13:05:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i recently upgraded food sizes from a rat fluff to a 'small' rat. i fed him this time last week, he didnt look like he was going to eat it but i think he enjoyed it, anyway when he was eating he looked like he was about to split open but there was nothing i could do because the food was almost gone, he still looks bloated from his dinner and never leaves his house since i fed him, hes poo'd (pretty much a boulder) but have i done the right thing or was it too big?

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clodove-xx
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
27 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  13:06:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
also he didnt like being weighed so im not sure how much we weighs...

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Baobab
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1393 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  13:20:16  Show Profile  Send Baobab an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I think the resident experienced members will probably want some more info, or a picture of the bulge.
I take it the snake in question is your 9 month old royal.
How much bigger would you say was the diameter of the rat compaired to the diameter of your royal?


Royal 8.0 - Piebald (Dipstick), Calico (Flake), Pinstripe (Copper), Kingpin het Hypo (Gabriel), Soulsucker (Morgoth), Clown (Ziggy), Phantom (Spook), Enchi( Stenchi) .................Royal 0.12 - Pastel (Elanor), Spider (Willow), Normal het pied (Loki),, Pastel Sterling Orange Hypo (Misty), Normal (WC parents) (Cinders), Pewter (Tinuviel), Yellowbelly (Kaiko), Mojave (Milly), Champagne (Bubbles), Fire (Flame), Karma paradox (Smudge), Amoretti (Rita).Boa's 2.2.1- Eowyn (common), Snuggles (BCC), Bonnie (BCC), Bear (BCL) & Baileys (Kahl strain)..........Western Hognose 0.0.2 - Timmy & Henry.
Coastal*diamond carpet python 0.0.1- Pippin.........Brazilian Rainbow Boa 0.0.1 - Badger..........Granite Burmese 0.1 - Sally
Reticulated python 2.2 - Saru (purple albino), Cheesy (Sunfire albino white), Titan (Platinum Titanium) & Gala (Sunfiretiger het albino)......Rat snake 1.0 Remmy.
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clodove-xx
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
27 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  13:38:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i will get a picture uploaded when i am home from work,
yeah it is haha
er not that much bigger i based it on the biggest part of him id say 1cm

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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  14:21:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When did you feed him?

A small rat is approximately 46-79 grams in weight, and obviously bigger than the rat fluffs (equivalent of an x-large mouse).
Going by the rough guide of 10% of your snakes empty weight (basically after a poo), it should weigh about 460 grams using the bottom end of the scale, so it's possible it may have been too big.

Just look out for regurgitation (if he's fine)

1.0.0 CB12 Normal
1.0.0 CB12 Super Pastel
0.1.0 CB12 Mojave
1.0.0 CB10 Fire
0.1.0 CB10 Blackbee
0.1.0 CB10 Granite het albino
0.1.0 CB12 Vanilla
1.1.0 CB12 Pastel 100% het G Stripe
0.1.0 CB12 Enchi
1.1.0 CB12 het Caramel
0.1.0 CB12 het Pied
0.1.0 CB12 het Orange Ghost
1.0.0 CB10 Pastel het Orange Ghost
1.0.0 CB12 Cinnamon Genetic Stripe
0.1.0 CB13 Pastel

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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  14:22:41  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i put my royal in a bowl on scales to weigh him much easier than trying to plonk him straight on lol

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1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
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0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  14:23:53  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i went from rat fluff to small weaner rat they might be better

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Snecklifter
Yearling

United Kingdom
144 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2012 :  09:30:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clodove-xx

i recently upgraded food sizes from a rat fluff to a 'small' rat. i fed him this time last week, he didnt look like he was going to eat it but i think he enjoyed it, anyway when he was eating he looked like he was about to split open but there was nothing i could do because the food was almost gone, he still looks bloated from his dinner and never leaves his house since i fed him, hes poo'd (pretty much a boulder) but have i done the right thing or was it too big?



In my experience, small rats supplied by my local rattery are approximately 80 - 90 grams in weight, so i suppose it depends on what you class as 'small'.

Anyway, there's always a doubt in your mind when you upgrade to bigger prey whether the snake will be able to cope with it. But, I never cease to be amazed at what they can get their heads round.

In my experience, if the snake doesn't think it can cope with that size prey, it wont bother trying in the first place. They have a sixth sense it would seem. So don't worry.

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