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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
 Posted - 10/09/2012 : 09:07:56
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Spotted this on cpr website and couldn't believe it no picture though
http://www.crystalpalacereptiles.com/index.php?option=com_redshop&view=product&pid=1188&cid=32&Itemid=61
correct me if im wrong but hg is hidden gene woma isn't it?
And a hidden gene woma lesser is a soulsucker if world of balls is right and the also have this on there website too
http://www.crystalpalacereptiles.com/index.php?option=com_redshop&view=product&pid=970&cid=32&Itemid=61
that's a big price difference so if im right about the hg in first snake that's not bad price for what i believe is a pastel soulsucker and the male is 100 cheaper again |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 10:18:18
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| Very tempted to use my doncaster money to pay a deposit |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 10:49:27
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there will be shed loads of royals at Doncaster
all depends what your breeding plans are really
i love lessers
if it was male id have prob jumped on it |
now on facebook
Royal Pythons
http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionMorphs
Western Hognose |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 10:55:56
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| They have a male too for 795 |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 11:06:08
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| Just click next on the link for female bottom right i think |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 11:18:43
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yep your right
ive gotta sell some blasts and get some funds
what you going to do
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now on facebook
Royal Pythons
http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionMorphs
Western Hognose |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 12:30:31
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| Think I'll wait and see what's at donny 1st would hate to use the money for deposit then see some snakes off my list at donny for a bargain also cpr has another snake i have my eye on |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 12:32:42
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| Just watched the link so from what Kevin is saying these snakes are what you need to breed with the hg woma to get soulsuckers now how much are hg womas lol |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2265 Posts |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 12:38:38
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| Maybe something to look for in the future then once i have my breeding plans up and going id have to sell a kidney for that money lol |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 12:39:29
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| Id gladly swap a kidney for a soulsucker though if anyone's interested? Lol |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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AndyJ80
Yearling
United Kingdom
385 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 13:14:56
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| I'll keep you in mind if I need a kidney lol |
1.0.0 CB12 Normal
1.0.0 CB12 Super Pastel
0.1.0 CB12 Mojave
1.0.0 CB10 Fire
0.1.0 CB10 Blackbee
0.1.0 CB10 Granite het albino
0.1.0 CB12 Vanilla
1.1.0 CB12 Pastel 100% het G Stripe
0.1.0 CB12 Enchi
1.1.0 CB12 het Caramel
0.1.0 CB12 het Pied
0.1.0 CB12 het Orange Ghost
1.0.0 CB10 Pastel het Orange Ghost
1.0.0 CB12 Cinnamon Genetic Stripe
0.1.0 CB13 Pastel
more on the way |
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Kev
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
41 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 20:04:31
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| That hg lesser has no hg woma in it. I think I'm right in saying that they are lessers from a hgwg x lesser pastel clutch. If they had hgw they would be soul suckers. |
1.0 Firefly
0.1 Bumblebee
1.1 Mystic
0.2 Mojave
0.1 Super Lesser
1.0 Hidden Gene Woma Granite
0.1 Enchi |
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LittlestarRed
Yearling
United Kingdom
197 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 10:05:49
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Oh the old HG Lesser myth again! *sigh*. I've been told in person by Dean at CPR myself that Darren insists on still using the HG term for a NERD line lesser. Even though it has no hidden gene! Nor has the HG Woma (yes I know I own one, Hubby LOVES them!). They are different lines and therefore different genetically from other Lessers or Womas!
The HG thing was something that Kevin stuck in the name because he figured there was more at play.
People have created Soulsucker looking morphs from non NERD line lessers I know as a friend who breeds has done just that! There was a video with Kevin admitting he'd heard of such morphs being created with Butters too!
On World of Ball pythons it doesn't specify a line of Lesser to Create a Soulsucker, because it's technically possible with any.
It's still not a bad price for a nice 2 gene male though! |
Royals:1.2 Normals 'Hector'(He's my Baby! lol),'Lily' & 'Satan',0.1 Albino 'Alice', 0.2 Bumblebees 'Belle' & 'unnamed', 0.1 Pinstripe 'Stripy', 1.0 Pastel het Albino 'Pasty' 1.0 HG Woma 'Helix' & 0.1 Lesser 'Honey' 1.0 Enchi 'Max',0.1 Pewter Fader 'Pandora' and 1.0 Clown 'Krusty'. Others: 0.1 Corn 'Nagini', 1.0 BRB 'Juju', 1.0 Honduran BCI 'Lucius', 1.1 Beardies 'Beanie and Snuggle' and 1.0 Yemen Chameleon 'Jasper'(a.k.a Hissy Fusspot). |
Edited by - LittlestarRed on 11/09/2012 10:08:26 |
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 11:35:00
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| Id its just the same as a normal lesser pastel then its a couple hundred overpriced so if what your saying is right you should get soulsucker looking morphs from lesser x woma? |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Edited by - carlb1981 on 11/09/2012 11:36:24 |
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Danno91
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
521 Posts |
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AndyJ80
Yearling
United Kingdom
385 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 12:22:55
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Here's a link to NERD (Kevin) explaining the soul sucker lineage. Listening to it I think they're not 100% sure what can make a soul sucker, except they confirm a HG Woma x "HG" Lesser can make them but also say a butter could hold the hidden gene which could potentially make a SS
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/videos/maballs-net-nerd-video/440/
EDIT:
if you look at image 7 on this link http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/soul-sucker/
against image 4 on this link http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/mojave-phantom/
who thinks they look very similar??? |
1.0.0 CB12 Normal
1.0.0 CB12 Super Pastel
0.1.0 CB12 Mojave
1.0.0 CB10 Fire
0.1.0 CB10 Blackbee
0.1.0 CB10 Granite het albino
0.1.0 CB12 Vanilla
1.1.0 CB12 Pastel 100% het G Stripe
0.1.0 CB12 Enchi
1.1.0 CB12 het Caramel
0.1.0 CB12 het Pied
0.1.0 CB12 het Orange Ghost
1.0.0 CB10 Pastel het Orange Ghost
1.0.0 CB12 Cinnamon Genetic Stripe
0.1.0 CB13 Pastel
more on the way |
Edited by - AndyJ80 on 11/09/2012 12:32:47 |
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Kev
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
41 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2012 : 03:05:13
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My understanding is a soul sucker is hidden gene woma/Lesser.
There is no "normal woma" in soul suckers. |
1.0 Firefly
0.1 Bumblebee
1.1 Mystic
0.2 Mojave
0.1 Super Lesser
1.0 Hidden Gene Woma Granite
0.1 Enchi |
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LittlestarRed
Yearling
United Kingdom
197 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2012 : 09:10:07
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quote:
Originally posted by Kev
My understanding is a soul sucker is hidden gene woma/Lesser.
There is no "normal woma" in soul suckers.
This is my understanding too. |
Royals:1.2 Normals 'Hector'(He's my Baby! lol),'Lily' & 'Satan',0.1 Albino 'Alice', 0.2 Bumblebees 'Belle' & 'unnamed', 0.1 Pinstripe 'Stripy', 1.0 Pastel het Albino 'Pasty' 1.0 HG Woma 'Helix' & 0.1 Lesser 'Honey' 1.0 Enchi 'Max',0.1 Pewter Fader 'Pandora' and 1.0 Clown 'Krusty'. Others: 0.1 Corn 'Nagini', 1.0 BRB 'Juju', 1.0 Honduran BCI 'Lucius', 1.1 Beardies 'Beanie and Snuggle' and 1.0 Yemen Chameleon 'Jasper'(a.k.a Hissy Fusspot). |
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cpr possible bargain or mistake
