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jonoandapril
Yearling

United Kingdom
455 Posts

Posted - 19/09/2012 :  18:19:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
was thinking, im going to do bee x normal this season, but also have hodgie's (cheers mate, he's a cracking snake) fire now. if i put fire into the 'mix' alternatly with bee, is there any chance of an egg getting all the three genes? i dont think so, but so far royals have suprised me more than once and im sure id heard of breeders putting more than one male to a female.

1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python

Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 19/09/2012 :  19:08:51  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's possible for all three genes to be present but not in the same snake so you could hatch a fire and a bumblebee where each egg is a result of a different sire. Apparently anyway dont think I've ever seen evidence of this though

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blackskull
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1278 Posts

Posted - 19/09/2012 :  19:36:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From what i understand you can get split clutches, like kelf said. The chap i bought lars from had a split clutch but cant remember what, i think one of the sires was a yellow belly

1.1 normal royal, sully, silver
0.1 pinstripe royal, penny
1.1 pastel royal, lars, clover
0.1 lesser royal, serenity
0.1 black pastel royal, betty
0.1 mojave royal, mavis
0.1 normal het clown
1.0 pastel het clown
1.0 nuclear, ned
1.0 super phantom
1.0 childrens python, myles
0.1 hog island boa
0.1 sonoran x boa, grace
0.0.1 mack snow leopard gecko, munchkin
4.1 cats, stan, dave, marble, binx, daisy
4.1 rabbits, mol, ted, bill, spud, alice
0.1 crazy cat/bunny lady of bridgwater, lucy
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jonoandapril
Yearling

United Kingdom
455 Posts

Posted - 20/09/2012 :  07:25:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Righto. So technicaly if I put the fire and the bee to my normal that could (theoreticly) reduce the amount of normals in the clutch?

1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python
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Danno91
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
521 Posts

Posted - 20/09/2012 :  08:06:44  Show Profile  Click to see Danno91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Its early so I could have this slightly wrong but here goes

Fire x normal = 2/4 fire 2/4 normal
Bee x normal = 1/4 normal 1/4 spider 1/4 pastel 1/4 bee

So doing what you said
2/8 fire 3/8 normal 1/8 bee 1/8 spider 1/8 pastel

So you have higher chance of a normal

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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 20/09/2012 :  15:05:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
^^^^^ spot on

1.0.0 CB12 Normal
1.0.0 CB12 Super Pastel
0.1.0 CB12 Mojave
1.0.0 CB10 Fire
0.1.0 CB10 Blackbee
0.1.0 CB10 Granite het albino
0.1.0 CB12 Vanilla
1.1.0 CB12 Pastel 100% het G Stripe
0.1.0 CB12 Enchi
1.1.0 CB12 het Caramel
0.1.0 CB12 het Pied
0.1.0 CB12 het Orange Ghost
1.0.0 CB10 Pastel het Orange Ghost
1.0.0 CB12 Cinnamon Genetic Stripe
0.1.0 CB13 Pastel

more on the way
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Danno91
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
521 Posts

Posted - 20/09/2012 :  15:22:28  Show Profile  Click to see Danno91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Love a bit of math in the morning

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AndyJ80
Yearling

United Kingdom
385 Posts

Posted - 20/09/2012 :  16:11:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gets the old grey matter working lol

1.0.0 CB12 Normal
1.0.0 CB12 Super Pastel
0.1.0 CB12 Mojave
1.0.0 CB10 Fire
0.1.0 CB10 Blackbee
0.1.0 CB10 Granite het albino
0.1.0 CB12 Vanilla
1.1.0 CB12 Pastel 100% het G Stripe
0.1.0 CB12 Enchi
1.1.0 CB12 het Caramel
0.1.0 CB12 het Pied
0.1.0 CB12 het Orange Ghost
1.0.0 CB10 Pastel het Orange Ghost
1.0.0 CB12 Cinnamon Genetic Stripe
0.1.0 CB13 Pastel

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jonoandapril
Yearling

United Kingdom
455 Posts

Posted - 20/09/2012 :  19:42:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
brilliant, im rubbish at the maths of it all. cheers guys.

1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python
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Danno91
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
521 Posts

Posted - 20/09/2012 :  19:46:25  Show Profile  Click to see Danno91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Remember that the eggs do not always match the odds its chance

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jonoandapril
Yearling

United Kingdom
455 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2012 :  09:52:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah, painfully aware of that one lol. i only need a female pastel and bee, so im kinda hoping to get them both in the one clutch. bit of a longshot i know but got my fingers crossed anyway.

1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python
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jonoandapril
Yearling

United Kingdom
455 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2012 :  09:52:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
come to think of it, worst case just a female pastel would do the trick...

1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 25/09/2012 :  14:48:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Give both your males a go, i would be unfair to leave one there just watching, glad your happy with the male Fire.

Royals owned "lots"

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jonoandapril
Yearling

United Kingdom
455 Posts

Posted - 25/09/2012 :  17:13:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cheers mate! i think the bee is going to have to be left to do his thing, maybe blaze can have a go next year. considering a new girl friend for him tho tbh, two breeding projects together. just not figured out what he should go with yet.

1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 25/09/2012 :  19:27:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jonoandapril
just not figured out what he should go with yet.



I know they won`t be old enough for next year but 2by2 have baby Mojave`s and Lesser`s upstairs. They did have 2 female Lessers last week but someone bought one, cough cough.

Royals owned "lots"

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jonoandapril
Yearling

United Kingdom
455 Posts

Posted - 25/09/2012 :  21:21:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, I wonder who that lucky person may have been? Haha! Have always liked Mojave's, il have to get on the morph wizard and see what is get from fire x Mojave or lesser. Did you happen to see what price he's letting them go for?

1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 25/09/2012 :  22:37:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The ones upstairs are Dave`s own personal snakes so you can get a cash deal on them, he only works on Sundays though.

Royals owned "lots"

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jonoandapril
Yearling

United Kingdom
455 Posts

Posted - 26/09/2012 :  19:59:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
roger that, il look into it then. cheers mate.

1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python
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