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Trekky
Snake Mite

5 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2012 :  21:00:23  Show Profile  Visit Trekky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone,

We have just acquired 2 royals the youngest (Monty) we got just over a week ago and the older one (Zuma) we got yesterday.

We also have a corn snake (Drago).

My question is regards feeding in or out of the viv... With our corn we have always fed out of the viv in his RUB... He's a fantastic feeder so never had an issue.
We wanted to do the same with the royals so as to avoid them associating feed time with the viv. We are having problems with Monty not eating yet and wondered if this could be an issue stopping him feed.

Should we persevere with feeding in the RUB or feed in the viv?

Currently both are on aspen so if it's adviced to feed in the viv then we will have to change the substrate to avoid them ingesting any during feeds.

Many thanks in advance for your advice

Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2012 :  21:16:02  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I did start off feeding in a separate tub but now feed all of mine in there rubs. So far I haven't had an issue with impaction.

You gotta figure that in the wild they don't eat in a sterile environment with no lose dirt and other detritus. Plus, if their stomach acid is stong enough to dissolve bone, it should make short work of aspen

IMHO

1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2012 :  21:37:12  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
As above, used to seperate, no longer do :) Have seen my snakes chowing down on a ton of substrate never to any problem though

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Ads
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
37 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  18:31:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We feed in the viv in order to avoid any handling just before or after a feed. We have not had any issues with ingested substrate (Aspen or Hemp bedding) or with snakes associating feed time with the viv. My husband works at a zoo which has many snakes and lots of different breeds, no one there has known a snake that associates feed time with the viv, its usually that funky rat smell

1.1.0 Normal (Tabou and Balala)
0.1.0 Blood Het for T+ Albino (Brimstone)
0.0.1 Monitor
2.1.0 Bengal Cats (Sundarban, Taklamakan, Mystique)
1.1.0 Moggies (Balor and Muss)
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  18:34:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some in,some out :P Gives me a chance to clean,or to handle for abit etc.

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1.0.0 Bumblebee Royal Python
1.0.0 Normal corn
1.0.0 Extreme red Hognose
0.1.0 Extreme red tiger Hognose
1.1.0 yemen chameleons
1.0.0 Piebald yemen
1.0.0 Tamatave panther
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Baobab
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1393 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  19:08:25  Show Profile  Send Baobab an AOL message  Reply with Quote
We fed all of ours out, but just recently Feanor will not look near his rat when he's in his feeding tub, so he gets it in his viv now.
Eowyn gets hers in her viv as well, due to her size.


Royal 8.0 - Piebald (Dipstick), Calico (Flake), Pinstripe (Copper), Kingpin het Hypo (Gabriel), Soulsucker (Morgoth), Clown (Ziggy), Phantom (Spook), Enchi( Stenchi) .................Royal 0.12 - Pastel (Elanor), Spider (Willow), Normal het pied (Loki),, Pastel Sterling Orange Hypo (Misty), Normal (WC parents) (Cinders), Pewter (Tinuviel), Yellowbelly (Kaiko), Mojave (Milly), Champagne (Bubbles), Fire (Flame), Karma paradox (Smudge), Amoretti (Rita).Boa's 2.2.1- Eowyn (common), Snuggles (BCC), Bonnie (BCC), Bear (BCL) & Baileys (Kahl strain)..........Western Hognose 0.0.2 - Timmy & Henry.
Coastal*diamond carpet python 0.0.1- Pippin.........Brazilian Rainbow Boa 0.0.1 - Badger..........Granite Burmese 0.1 - Sally
Reticulated python 2.2 - Saru (purple albino), Cheesy (Sunfire albino white), Titan (Platinum Titanium) & Gala (Sunfiretiger het albino)......Rat snake 1.0 Remmy.
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markmifsud
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
534 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  19:20:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always feed out of the viv. mainly as I cohabit so its better to feed them seperately. Also gives me time to clean the viv, sterilise new aspen etc etc

1.1.0 Pastal Ball
1.0.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
0.1.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)

Bromley. SE London
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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  19:21:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by markmifsud

mainly as I cohabit

:( :( :(

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ajokocha
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
816 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  23:06:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also feed in their rubs, they quickly distinguish the difference between your hand and food :)

1.0.0 normal royal -Floyd
1.0.0 mojave royal - Smee
1.0.0 common boa - Brady
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Trekky
Snake Mite

5 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2012 :  13:47:02  Show Profile  Visit Trekky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by badwool

quote:
Originally posted by markmifsud

mainly as I cohabit

:( :( :(



I was reading through the posts but didn't understand badwool's response to markmifsud's response...? Is there something wrong with co habiting? This is something I haven't looked into doing so both my royals were kept separate
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markmifsud
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
534 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2012 :  16:47:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some feel its bad or wrong for various reasons, either way his comment was uncalled for IMHO.

My two adults have co-habited for 7 years. Mate in season, do all the normal stuff.

Many do co-habit, many do not.

1.1.0 Pastal Ball
1.0.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
0.1.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)

Bromley. SE London
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2265 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2012 :  16:52:04  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Id say there nothing wrong with it
There's more ways to skin a cat And that

But it puts them at more risks from infections


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Edited by - Evolution Morphs on 04/10/2012 16:52:50
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JodiT
Yearling

United Kingdom
149 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2012 :  17:09:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've always fed both my royal and corn in their vivs and never had any problems :)

But that's the way they've always been fed.. so I suppose it's routine.

0.1 Normal Royal - Fifi
1.0 Normal Royal - Milo
1.0 Spider Royal - Rupert
0.1 Corn Snake - Flo
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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2012 :  17:10:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by markmifsud

Some feel its bad or wrong for various reasons, either way his comment was uncalled for IMHO.

My two adults have co-habited for 7 years. Mate in season, do all the normal stuff.

Many do co-habit, many do not.


how was it uncalled for?

It wasn't nasty or offensive?


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Cookie
Yearling

United Kingdom
205 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2012 :  20:43:57  Show Profile  Visit Cookie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yea I cohabit too, in fairness only have been doing that for about 1.5 years but I havent had any issues with it. My two boys get on fine, have their own hides. Obvs if your going to cohabit you run the risk of infection spreading... but so far i've had no issues.

I separate my boys during feeding time... one gets fed in viv, and the other in a rub...

1.2.0 Royal Pythons (Sebastian, Romeo & Gypsy)
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