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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 30/10/2012 :  10:33:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What are the possible results if bred with a Normal with markers for hidden morph and a pastel?

Also is that pricing sales out of the 'regular' market~?



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa

Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 30/10/2012 :  16:52:40  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok, here goes

My understanding of the soulsucker is that it was originaly from a HGW x lesser. The lesser was the offspring of a Platty Daddy bred by Noah over in Africa, hence the little bit extra. Thats was how Kevin from NERD laided it out in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EQtm37n_NE

However, the genetic wizard has the soulsucker listed as a Granite x HGW x Lesser. like so....http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/&male=1636,971,70&female=

If you wanted to add Pastel, it'd go something like this
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/&male=1636,971,70&female=32

I'm not 100% clear on the last part of the question re; market prices but I hope that helps a little

1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 30/10/2012 :  16:56:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow thanks Fezza..that is an impressive list of possibilities, all stunning offspring :)



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 30/10/2012 :  17:14:25  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The great thing about the soulsucker is that it's not a recessive trait so you can still get cool morphs of the back of it without producing a bunch of hets

1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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Kev
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
41 Posts

Posted - 31/10/2012 :  12:55:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Soul suckers are very expensive. I hope to breed some next year.
What is a "normal with markers for hidden morph"?
Do you mean a "dinker"?
Soulsucker is hgw x lesser. There is no such thing as hg lesser. A Mojave "soulsucker" has been produced, IMO it looks better than the lesser version.

1.0 Firefly
0.1 Bumblebee
1.1 Mystic
0.2 Mojave
0.1 Super Lesser
1.0 Hidden Gene Woma Granite
0.1 Enchi

Edited by - Kev on 31/10/2012 12:56:34
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Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 31/10/2012 :  16:02:02  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kev

Soul suckers are very expensive. I hope to breed some next year.
What is a "normal with markers for hidden morph"?
Do you mean a "dinker"?
Soulsucker is hgw x lesser. There is no such thing as hg lesser. A Mojave "soulsucker" has been produced, IMO it looks better than the lesser version.


That's right! Didn't Kevin say in a recent interview that he got it wrong with the HG lesser and that any of the morphs on the same allele .i.e lesser, mojave, butter can produce a soulsucker?

1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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