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matildasmum
Yearling
United Kingdom
176 Posts |
 Posted - 31/10/2012 : 00:23:22
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| how come royals heads stay soooo small yet their bodies get sooo big |
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curiouslyfacinated
Yearling
United Kingdom
156 Posts |
Posted - 31/10/2012 : 08:57:38
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fat snakes???
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1.0.0 Normal Royal Python Loki
1.1.0 Cats Daisy and Benson
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Fezza
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1063 Posts |
Posted - 31/10/2012 : 09:36:17
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Cheaper hats |
1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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BlueDragon
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
876 Posts |
Posted - 01/11/2012 : 09:23:11
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I thought, as a general rule, that Snakes had evolved smaller heads and had developed the ability to dislocate their jaw (as a pose to a bigger head they didn't need to do that with) 'cause it means they can get into tighter spaces? Either to catch prey or to hide away. Is that not true?
I know that if a Snake's head can fit through something then most of the time the rest will be able to follow, 'cause if it's a tight fit then they can collapse their ribs and lungs down to squeeze through.
I can imagine if I was a Snake that having a smaller head would make getting around easier. 'Cause your whole body is then much more streamlined.
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badwool
Sub Adult
658 Posts |
Posted - 01/11/2012 : 12:29:27
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Baobab
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1393 Posts |
Posted - 01/11/2012 : 13:47:09
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| Don't know about the body fitting through if their head fits. Two of ours managed to get stuck half way through a hole in their hides. |
Royal 8.0 - Piebald (Dipstick), Calico (Flake), Pinstripe (Copper), Kingpin het Hypo (Gabriel), Soulsucker (Morgoth), Clown (Ziggy), Phantom (Spook), Enchi( Stenchi) .................Royal 0.12 - Pastel (Elanor), Spider (Willow), Normal het pied (Loki),, Pastel Sterling Orange Hypo (Misty), Normal (WC parents) (Cinders), Pewter (Tinuviel), Yellowbelly (Kaiko), Mojave (Milly), Champagne (Bubbles), Fire (Flame), Karma paradox (Smudge), Amoretti (Rita).Boa's 2.2.1- Eowyn (common), Snuggles (BCC), Bonnie (BCC), Bear (BCL) & Baileys (Kahl strain)..........Western Hognose 0.0.2 - Timmy & Henry.
Coastal*diamond carpet python 0.0.1- Pippin.........Brazilian Rainbow Boa 0.0.1 - Badger..........Granite Burmese 0.1 - Sally
Reticulated python 2.2 - Saru (purple albino), Cheesy (Sunfire albino white), Titan (Platinum Titanium) & Gala (Sunfiretiger het albino)......Rat snake 1.0 Remmy.
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curiouslyfacinated
Yearling
United Kingdom
156 Posts |
Posted - 01/11/2012 : 21:21:55
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| I believe the "head fits body fits" theory applies to cats not snakes. Thats the reason they have whiskers so they can tell if there body fits or not x |
1.0.0 Normal Royal Python Loki
1.1.0 Cats Daisy and Benson
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BlueDragon
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
876 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2012 : 09:27:52
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Yeah, I know Cats do that. I just thought Snakes did it as well... but without the whiskers ; )
Seriously though, they must have some way of telling if they can fit a gap. What if they were half way down a hole finding a Mouse or whatever and got stuck 'cause they hadn't calculated the gap right. It could cost them their lives if little Mouse decided to attack them. They must have some sense of if they can fit or not? Snakes aren't daft, they seem to be able to tell a big enough gap from a too small one (well, all that's debatable really, isn't it?).
Anyway, if it isn't for that reason what is it then? I'm curious now. They've clearly evolved a small head with the abillity to dislocate their jaw for feeding for a good reason.
Or is it simply that their head didn't quite manage to catch up with the reast of it while they were evolving into Snakes in the first place? So they developed a 'quick fix'. |
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curiouslyfacinated
Yearling
United Kingdom
156 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2012 : 13:56:28
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Hm interesting thoughts.
Maybe they just go in until they find they are too big and then reverse? Maybe the head size thing is due to them not having legs??? Not sure why that would make a difference x |
1.0.0 Normal Royal Python Loki
1.1.0 Cats Daisy and Benson
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Lindstrom
Hatchling
United Kingdom
91 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2012 : 23:06:17
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Originally posted by BlueDragon
Seriously though, they must have some way of telling if they can fit a gap. What if they were half way down a hole finding a Mouse or whatever and got stuck 'cause they hadn't calculated the gap right. It could cost them their lives if little Mouse decided to attack them. They must have some sense of if they can fit or not? Snakes aren't daft, they seem to be able to tell a big enough gap from a too small one (well, all that's debatable really, isn't it?).
Mine tried to fit through a metal ring despite acting very quickly he got stuck and continued pushing through and even constricting not smart!, thought he was gonna kill him self, luckily the ring had a catch and hinge. I strongly advise never to put anything they may get stuck in near them. They are dumb slow snakes, lovely but not very bright  I believe they have a small head because they are a old species which hasn't had the need to evolve a bigger head because the jaw and neck got there first :) |
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BlueDragon
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
876 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2012 : 09:04:44
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So my idea about the head evolving slower than the rest of the Animal wasn't far off then?
curiouslyfacinated: the problem with that is that Snakes find it hard to reverse out of a tight gap 'cause of their scales. The way they point means they're more likely to catch and get stuck. |
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