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red123
Hatchling

United Kingdom
60 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2012 :  13:48:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just wondering if any of you have captive farmed royals on here. We have discovered that our royal is actually captive farmed and was imported from africa into the uk before being fed or drinking. We got him from some really nice people but we simply were unaware of his origin at the time. I have had people comment on his size, saying he is large for his age. This got me wondering whether their is any difference in the sizes between captive farmed and captive bred.

Corn Snakes
1.0.0 Amel (Stan)

Royal Python
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)

Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 Agatha

Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal(Stevie)

Honduran Milk Snake
0.0.1 Tri-coloured (Bryan)

0.0.1 Schneinder Skink (George )
0.2.0 Wild Type (no Hets) Leopard Geckos (Tilly & Belle)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
13 GALS


Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 2 Texel Guniea Pigs (Richard & Roger), 1 Rex Guniea Pig (Eli), 1 Smooth Coated Guinea Pig (Ted), 6 Rescued Hens, 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family

Leucistic
Yearling

United Kingdom
453 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2012 :  13:55:58  Show Profile  Visit Leucistic's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I cannot really comment, but the guy in my local reptile shop had a wild caught 5-6ft monster girl that lived till 33. These were the days of wild caught only and no morphs.

He said she was a complete softy but an oversized beast lol

Wild types (Normals) are still his favs to this day

1.0.0 Mojave Royal Python - Loki
0.1.0 Lesser Fire Royal Python - Summer
0.1.0 100% het Albino Royal Python - Nancy
1.0.0 Butter Spider Royal Python - Otis
1.0.0 Albino Royal Python - Hermies
1.0.0 California King Snake - Oreo (Mr Grumpy)
1.0.0 Western Hognose - Tyrion
0.1.0 Amazon Tree Boa - Rose
0.1.0 Horned frog - India
0.0.2 Gargoyle Gecko - Willow & Amber
0.0.1 Leachianus Henkeli- Boo
0.1.0 Staffy x Bulldog - Piggy

Lots of Fish and Shrimp

Edited by - Leucistic on 12/12/2012 14:07:07
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jbarlow91
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
897 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2012 :  17:09:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure but I know maternilly incubated eggs produce bigger babies than artificially incubated eggs do lol they are supposed to have bigger jaws aswell

0.1.0 snow corn Ruby 1.0.0 ghost corn-Oreo
1.0.0 bearded dragon- kato
0.1.0 bearded dragon- keita
1.0.0 cali king-Taz
0.1.0 royal-Clio
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal- Moose
0.1.0 hognose jinxx
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2012 :  17:34:20  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Do you have anything to back that up Jbarlow? Would make an interesting read!

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red123
Hatchling

United Kingdom
60 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2012 :  18:13:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds interesting :)

Corn Snakes
1.0.0 Amel (Stan)

Royal Python
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)

Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 Agatha

Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal(Stevie)

Honduran Milk Snake
0.0.1 Tri-coloured (Bryan)

0.0.1 Schneinder Skink (George )
0.2.0 Wild Type (no Hets) Leopard Geckos (Tilly & Belle)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
13 GALS


Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 2 Texel Guniea Pigs (Richard & Roger), 1 Rex Guniea Pig (Eli), 1 Smooth Coated Guinea Pig (Ted), 6 Rescued Hens, 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2012 :  21:00:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My CF royal is smaller than my step mums CB royal and they're the same age... They were the same size 4 months ago but Kane hasn't eaten for 16 weeks so that's a downer :(

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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jbarlow91
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
897 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2012 :  21:41:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was in practical reptile keeping a couple of months ago an article about maturnal incubation also said you don't have increase humidity in viv because the eggs don't lose any water when the mother incubates them

0.1.0 snow corn Ruby 1.0.0 ghost corn-Oreo
1.0.0 bearded dragon- kato
0.1.0 bearded dragon- keita
1.0.0 cali king-Taz
0.1.0 royal-Clio
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal- Moose
0.1.0 hognose jinxx
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red123
Hatchling

United Kingdom
60 Posts

Posted - 20/12/2012 :  10:48:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone with captive farmed royals that can answer this query of size about CF against CB royals?

Corn Snakes
1.0.0 Amel (Stan)

Royal Python
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)

Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 Agatha

Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal(Stevie)

Honduran Milk Snake
0.0.1 Tri-coloured (Bryan)

0.0.1 Schneinder Skink (George )
0.2.0 Wild Type (no Hets) Leopard Geckos (Tilly & Belle)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
13 GALS


Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 2 Texel Guniea Pigs (Richard & Roger), 1 Rex Guniea Pig (Eli), 1 Smooth Coated Guinea Pig (Ted), 6 Rescued Hens, 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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reptilemadd
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
969 Posts

Posted - 20/12/2012 :  17:40:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah I read the same article jb very interesting although it did mention at the beginning he had more failures than successes, as for your question red since the article said that maternally incubated eggs produce bigger babies, then it stands to reason that cf babies would be bigger than cb ones since at a guess all cf babies come from ghana so they would've been incubated by mum.

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1.1.0 100% Het Clown "Cerberus" and "Artemis"
0.1.0 Poss Calico "Ariadne"
1.0.0 Lesser " Kronos"
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jbarlow91
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
897 Posts

Posted - 20/12/2012 :  18:04:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And I suppose it just depends on other factors aswell like food obviously a cb royal that eats every week is gonna be bigger than a cf that is a fussy eater lol

0.1.0 snow corn Ruby 1.0.0 ghost corn-Oreo
1.0.0 bearded dragon- kato
0.1.0 bearded dragon- keita
1.0.0 cali king-Taz
0.1.0 royal-Clio
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal- Moose
0.1.0 hognose jinxx
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red123
Hatchling

United Kingdom
60 Posts

Posted - 20/12/2012 :  20:58:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have read somewhere, can't remember where, that CF royals are generally better feeders than CB royals and that CF are less likely to fast for long periods. Don't know if that's right or not.

Corn Snakes
1.0.0 Amel (Stan)

Royal Python
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)

Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 Agatha

Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal(Stevie)

Honduran Milk Snake
0.0.1 Tri-coloured (Bryan)

0.0.1 Schneinder Skink (George )
0.2.0 Wild Type (no Hets) Leopard Geckos (Tilly & Belle)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
13 GALS


Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 2 Texel Guniea Pigs (Richard & Roger), 1 Rex Guniea Pig (Eli), 1 Smooth Coated Guinea Pig (Ted), 6 Rescued Hens, 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 23/12/2012 :  18:47:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CF are where eggs are taken from the wild and incubated artificially is it not? If they'd already hatched they'd be Wild caught animals.


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jbarlow91
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
897 Posts

Posted - 23/12/2012 :  21:10:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah that's right lol so am guessin there wouldn't be much difference between the two

0.1.0 snow corn Ruby 1.0.0 ghost corn-Oreo
1.0.0 bearded dragon- kato
0.1.0 bearded dragon- keita
1.0.0 cali king-Taz
0.1.0 royal-Clio
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal- Moose
0.1.0 hognose jinxx
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