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acd1984
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
687 Posts |
 Posted - 20/12/2012 : 13:14:02
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| I think dead snakes are readily available tbh, there are people that keep cobras that buy royal pythons that have died of natural causes to feed to the cobras. i was shocked the first time i saw a cobra eating an albino royal |
1.0.0 Lesser - Helios
2.0.0 Normal - George & Kairo
1.0.0 Mojave - Bolt
0.1.0 Mojave - Roxi
1.0.0 Leopard Gecko - Leo
0.0.1 Crocodile gecko - Pheonix
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2012 : 13:32:33
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Dead of natural causes is acceptable, but I'm sure the ones listed on ebay are killed and skinned purely for profit, and that I can't accept.
The point was made abou leather shoes and belts, cattle are killed for meat and the hides used..they are not skinned alive. |
Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa |
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markmifsud
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2012 : 20:36:05
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| Janie, yes I know belts and shoes are a by product, and on the whole I am sure that cattle are killed as quickly as possible. But you have to remember, killing animals in a bad way is how they live. I have seen a lot worse done to animals that are then eaten alive. I have seen frogs skinned alive, and left to hop around skinless waiting to be eaten. Its not right by our standards, but its normal for many walks of life. |
1.1.0 Pastal Ball
1.0.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
0.1.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2012 : 21:19:58
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| True Mark, but surely the whole trade is fueled by the vanity of westerners, bit like the ivory trade and the hands of gorillas to decorate a desk..its just wrong. I can see no easy way to put an end to it :( |
Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa |
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reptilemadd
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
969 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2012 : 21:49:11
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| The only way it'll end is if there is no longer a demand for the items which will never happen while there are people who are willing to buy them, I should have added to my last post, that although the video really disgusted me I am not against the use of reptile skins as long as they are killed humanely and in numbers that do not effect the balance of nature in which ever enviroment they are living. Unfortunately if that were to happen the cost of using them would go through the roof, so in short it will never end while one person is willing to pay another for a particular product. |
1.0.0 beardie "magic"
1.1.0 100% Het Clown "Cerberus" and "Artemis"
0.1.0 Poss Calico "Ariadne"
1.0.0 Lesser " Kronos"
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2012 : 21:56:26
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| I read a piece in the latest Practical Reptile Keeping mag about the effect that taking animals from the wild has on the ecosystem there and it raised an interesting point about how although we normally assume it's a terrible thing the places where these animals are being taken from and normally rather poor places that do so to earn an income - without being able to do that the people would go hungry and eventually the places these animals live in would be torn down to make room for more farmland which is normally these peoples main income (which obviously would destroy a larger population of the animals than the pet trade claims) I realise that's not about skinning them but I imagine there is a lot of overlap where snakeskin is creating some economy that without might lead to deforestation. |
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markmifsud
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
534 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2012 : 22:23:45
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| As westerners, we can really only complain about the way these creatures are handled. I know it seems cruel, but as I said in my other post, I have seen far worse being done in the name of food. |
1.1.0 Pastal Ball
1.0.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
0.1.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
Bromley. SE London |
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Lindstrom
Hatchling
United Kingdom
91 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2012 : 00:02:58
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| That's a disgrace, it is not governed, so many laws are being broken and nothing is being done about it |
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