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Mulv
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 02/05/2009 : 13:05:21
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Right, well I'm a very unhappy bunny.
Sid fails to shed in one piece pretty much everytime despite my efforts, this time round was better than the others (he actually managed to get the head piece off himself).
I don't spray too much or bathe too much because the last time I did that, he developed an RI. Seems like this time it's come back, at first I thought it was just shed blocking his nose but he's keeping his head up by the vents in the faunarium and he's blowing bubbles.
Needless to say, I'm gutted because his temps are spot on, and his humidity isn't too high, because his shed went badly again.
Question is, I have some baytril left over from the last time he had it, so do I self-medicate? Or do I take him to the vets to see if theres something else causing the shed problems and the RI?
Last time I took him I got a fecal test done but nothing came back so I didn't worry... Is there anything (like parasites) that might be causing it? I can't see any mites and he was eating fine right up until he went into shed. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 14:45:37
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Oh no, i hope it will be ok, how long since he shed?
Thats a GP question on the second bit, i would re-dose.
Have you upped the temps...and have you got any F10?
i dont know how to do it, but i do know that the guy i got my royal from did this and within a week the RI had gone and was no more..
He used a fogger and F10 and it worked...
The other thing is when i was giving F10 i was also told to give 1 drop per nostril of diluted F10 alongside the baytril..
Has he got a moss box also? only reason i am asking is because when P had his, in the day he spent it there despite all the hides...and my vet says there is a theory that some moisture helps them but not to much. Let him have the option..Also i sprayed his moss box when he was sick in there with an F10 solution, just figured that it would kill any other germs whilst he was in there and was sick..
wishing him a quick recovery. fingers crossed for you;-)
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 20:05:29
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| personally i'd go for the Baytril you've got left, is the original doseage still on the bottle? it's usually 0.2ml Baytril per kg of snake (weight) but if the label says different go with what the vet put on the label |
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal
Azerbaijan
1550 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 20:07:33
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Good luck MIKE. Fingers crossed for you mate.
EDIT: Wrong name. Senior moment. Sorry. |
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reptiles-ink
Yearling
United Kingdom
298 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 21:20:00
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I use F10 for RI's.
I use 1 part F10 to 125 parts water and put it in a nebuliser.
I put the nebuliser in the viv pointing towards the snake 2 times a day.
Normally everythings back to normal in about 3 days but I keep nebulising for about another week to make sure.
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 21:29:06
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Originally posted by reptiles-ink
I use F10 for RI's.
I use 1 part F10 to 125 parts water and put it in a nebuliser.
I put the nebuliser in the viv pointing towards the snake 2 times a day.
Normally everythings back to normal in about 3 days but I keep nebulising for about another week to make sure.
Thanks for posting this,
just for other people who might be like me and not be able to work it out...
how much would you put in say a pint or 500 ml? |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 21:53:42
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Originally posted by Paulusworm
Good luck MIKE.
EDIT: Wrong name. Senior moment. Sorry.
Maybe we should join the OAP club for snake owners..
i qualify cos i am miles older than you... |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 22:24:21
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
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Originally posted by reptiles-ink
I use F10 for RI's.
I use 1 part F10 to 125 parts water and put it in a nebuliser.
I put the nebuliser in the viv pointing towards the snake 2 times a day.
Normally everythings back to normal in about 3 days but I keep nebulising for about another week to make sure.
Thanks for posting this,
just for other people who might be like me and not be able to work it out...
how much would you put in say a pint or 500 ml?
1:125 so 4:500 |
 
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 22:32:08
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Originally posted by Blackecho
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
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Originally posted by reptiles-ink
I use F10 for RI's.
I use 1 part F10 to 125 parts water and put it in a nebuliser.
I put the nebuliser in the viv pointing towards the snake 2 times a day.
Normally everythings back to normal in about 3 days but I keep nebulising for about another week to make sure.
Thanks for posting this,
just for other people who might be like me and not be able to work it out...
how much would you put in say a pint or 500 ml?
1:125 so 4:500
Thanks, you can tell where my head was in school cant you..lol..
daydreaming out the window...
just to make me look really thick, is that 4.5ml? |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 22:38:09
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 23:43:21
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Originally posted by Blackecho
1ml in 125ml = 4ml in 500ml
they never did that stuff when i was young..lol
at school we were not European we were British and learnt in pounds ounces and measurements were in feet and inches.....
Dave, what strength are you making up for cleaning vivs?
Just checking now that i am not making it to weak... |
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reptiles-ink
Yearling
United Kingdom
298 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2009 : 01:22:46
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I use it at about 1:150 but for general cleaning out you can use it at 1:500 or even 1:1000
At 1:150 you still get loads out of a bottle so I use it at that strength to be safe.
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2009 : 09:19:57
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
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Originally posted by Blackecho
1ml in 125ml = 4ml in 500ml
they never did that stuff when i was young..lol
Multiplication and division? |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2009 : 09:29:36
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Mulv
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
530 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2009 : 10:26:07
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Thanks for your help guys, yeah I still have the original dosage marked on the bottle, which is 0.2 once a day, he has grown since then but I don't want to overdose him.
I'll try for the usual ten days, but if not I'll go down the nebuliser route. Problem is, I go on holiday for a week soon... If I took him to a vet before I went do you think they would hold onto him til I got back? - Namely the one at pets at home in pompey if Paulus is watching lol. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2009 : 10:47:13
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Originally posted by Mulv
Thanks for your help guys, yeah I still have the original dosage marked on the bottle, which is 0.2 once a day, he has grown since then but I don't want to overdose him.
I'll try for the usual ten days, but if not I'll go down the nebuliser route. Problem is, I go on holiday for a week soon... If I took him to a vet before I went do you think they would hold onto him til I got back? - Namely the one at pets at home in pompey if Paulus is watching lol.
Mulv, sorry to be a pain, but does he have mucus and bubbles?
i know it is not a good time but could you possibly take some shots of him with this without stressing him? |
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Mulv
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
530 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2009 : 12:39:05
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Yeah he does, he blows bubbles every now and then and when I gave him some baytril yesterday his mouth was full of bubbly mucus.
I'll try get a photo of him later or something. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2009 : 12:59:00
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Originally posted by Mulv
Yeah he does, he blows bubbles every now and then and when I gave him some baytril yesterday his mouth was full of bubbly mucus.
I'll try get a photo of him later or something.
Thanks Mulv, but dont do it if you think it is going to stress him..also if you do get one could you email it to me at
acfbates@btinternet.com
want it for this ri thingy i am trying to do...
thanks;-) |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/05/2009 : 18:06:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Mulv
...the original dosage marked on the bottle, which is 0.2 once a day, he has grown since then but I don't want to overdose him.
it's 0.2ml per kg so if he's now, for example, 1250g use 0.25ml, or 1500g use 0.3ml.
might be worth getting some F10 in if you can, i think WS had success nebulizing with it and putting a drop in P's nostrils. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/05/2009 : 19:26:07
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Originally posted by Gingerpony
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Originally posted by Mulv
...the original dosage marked on the bottle, which is 0.2 once a day, he has grown since then but I don't want to overdose him.
it's 0.2ml per kg so if he's now, for example, 1250g use 0.25ml, or 1500g use 0.3ml.
might be worth getting some F10 in if you can, i think WS had success nebulizing with it and putting a drop in P's nostrils.
yes i was using 1 drop per nostril daily...
1ml diluted in 125ml water
Reptiles ink on here can help you also, i believe F10 kills an ri faster than Baytril...
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2009 : 20:33:26
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| might as well try the Baytril first though as you've got it and it will go out of date (hopefully!) before you might need it again! F10 is more readily available, it's not POM so you don't have to have it prescribed by a vet. |
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