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Joeboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  13:21:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just read the sticky in this section which answered a lot of genetic questions for me. The main one was the meaning of 'heterozygous' and 'homozygous'. Am I right in saying 'het' means the snake has the gene but only one and therefore it is not visible (but still breed-able)?

"" Quoted from Leucistic in the Introduction Thread:

Any questions just ask away, this is a great friendly forum :)

Are you aiming at blue eyed Leucistics one day? or gonna go down another route with the lesser gene (Nuclear etc)? ""


For those that did not read that thread, I have a Male Lesser Platinum now.

I have to be honest Leucistic, at this point I do not know enough to know what is possible, but I am trying to learn fast. What I do know is what I like the look of and I would very much like a piebald as a next snake. What possibilities would a Lesser Platinum / Piebald give me?

I had not heard of 'Nuclear' until you mentioned it - I am off to google those now!!!!

This stuff is so fascinating.

Edited by - Joeboy on 08/04/2013 13:22:22

Leucistic
Yearling

United Kingdom
453 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  13:31:13  Show Profile  Visit Leucistic's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you bred a pied and your lesser plat you would get the following

50% 1/2 Normal Het. Piebald (50% het)
50% 1/2 Lesser Het. Piebald (50% het)

above the clutch would have a 50% chance of been het for pied.
you would then need to breed the lesser het pied back to a visual pied to get a lesser pied visual.


Have a play on here and see what you like and can pair up
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

hope this helps



any more questions just ask



1.0.0 Mojave Royal Python - Loki
0.1.0 Lesser Fire Royal Python - Summer
0.1.0 100% het Albino Royal Python - Nancy
1.0.0 Butter Spider Royal Python - Otis
1.0.0 Albino Royal Python - Hermies
1.0.0 California King Snake - Oreo (Mr Grumpy)
1.0.0 Western Hognose - Tyrion
0.1.0 Amazon Tree Boa - Rose
0.1.0 Horned frog - India
0.0.2 Gargoyle Gecko - Willow & Amber
0.0.1 Leachianus Henkeli- Boo
0.1.0 Staffy x Bulldog - Piggy

Lots of Fish and Shrimp

Edited by - Leucistic on 08/04/2013 13:48:49
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Joeboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  13:56:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great wizard - that is going to help understanding a lot - thanks!
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2265 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  14:44:59  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
All the babies with be 100% het pied if using a visual pied ;)


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Leucistic
Yearling

United Kingdom
453 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  15:18:44  Show Profile  Visit Leucistic's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Woops lol my bad

well pointed out Del

1.0.0 Mojave Royal Python - Loki
0.1.0 Lesser Fire Royal Python - Summer
0.1.0 100% het Albino Royal Python - Nancy
1.0.0 Butter Spider Royal Python - Otis
1.0.0 Albino Royal Python - Hermies
1.0.0 California King Snake - Oreo (Mr Grumpy)
1.0.0 Western Hognose - Tyrion
0.1.0 Amazon Tree Boa - Rose
0.1.0 Horned frog - India
0.0.2 Gargoyle Gecko - Willow & Amber
0.0.1 Leachianus Henkeli- Boo
0.1.0 Staffy x Bulldog - Piggy

Lots of Fish and Shrimp
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  16:08:31  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nuclear morphs are fire x butter with whatever else thrown in lol Im going for nuclear pins just need a male fire

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Leucistic
Yearling

United Kingdom
453 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  16:15:54  Show Profile  Visit Leucistic's Homepage  Reply with Quote
carl get that fire asap

1.0.0 Mojave Royal Python - Loki
0.1.0 Lesser Fire Royal Python - Summer
0.1.0 100% het Albino Royal Python - Nancy
1.0.0 Butter Spider Royal Python - Otis
1.0.0 Albino Royal Python - Hermies
1.0.0 California King Snake - Oreo (Mr Grumpy)
1.0.0 Western Hognose - Tyrion
0.1.0 Amazon Tree Boa - Rose
0.1.0 Horned frog - India
0.0.2 Gargoyle Gecko - Willow & Amber
0.0.1 Leachianus Henkeli- Boo
0.1.0 Staffy x Bulldog - Piggy

Lots of Fish and Shrimp
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  16:18:34  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Lol I've seen a fire poss het clown which could be interesting nuclear pin clowns :-)

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Leucistic
Yearling

United Kingdom
453 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  16:21:47  Show Profile  Visit Leucistic's Homepage  Reply with Quote
that's one for the future, some amazeballs combos right there


1.0.0 Mojave Royal Python - Loki
0.1.0 Lesser Fire Royal Python - Summer
0.1.0 100% het Albino Royal Python - Nancy
1.0.0 Butter Spider Royal Python - Otis
1.0.0 Albino Royal Python - Hermies
1.0.0 California King Snake - Oreo (Mr Grumpy)
1.0.0 Western Hognose - Tyrion
0.1.0 Amazon Tree Boa - Rose
0.1.0 Horned frog - India
0.0.2 Gargoyle Gecko - Willow & Amber
0.0.1 Leachianus Henkeli- Boo
0.1.0 Staffy x Bulldog - Piggy

Lots of Fish and Shrimp
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Joeboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  17:16:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw a picture of some from the States and they look amazing. Also looks like they are making big money over there.
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Leucistic
Yearling

United Kingdom
453 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  18:17:54  Show Profile  Visit Leucistic's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You have started with a good base morph, so have lots of good options.

Do you like the lesserxmojo, or super lesser both blue eyed Lucy's? They have gotta be one of my fav morphs

1.0.0 Mojave Royal Python - Loki
0.1.0 Lesser Fire Royal Python - Summer
0.1.0 100% het Albino Royal Python - Nancy
1.0.0 Butter Spider Royal Python - Otis
1.0.0 Albino Royal Python - Hermies
1.0.0 California King Snake - Oreo (Mr Grumpy)
1.0.0 Western Hognose - Tyrion
0.1.0 Amazon Tree Boa - Rose
0.1.0 Horned frog - India
0.0.2 Gargoyle Gecko - Willow & Amber
0.0.1 Leachianus Henkeli- Boo
0.1.0 Staffy x Bulldog - Piggy

Lots of Fish and Shrimp
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Joeboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  20:11:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really like the Nuclears and the black fires and black head mojaves are a cool looking snake. I think we will really take our time though and enjoy the learning experience for a while. I am not in any hurry and want to learn as much as I can before taking the plunge into breeding. I am sure it is really possible to produce something really amazing. I take it you like the white snakes best!
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rustyp1974
Sub Adult

France
554 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  20:19:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just looked at the wizard & crossing two Nuke's could be fun.....if you've won the lottery that is!


1.0.0 Classic Royal Python - Apsalar
0.1.0 Fire Pinstripe Royal Python - Ember
1.1.0 Het Clown Royals (Male Pastel)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon GG X Sandfire - Bert
1.1.O Sunset Bearded Dragons
1.0.0 Veiled/Yemen Chameleon - Ernie.RIP.
0.0.1 Pandinus Cavimanus Africanus
1.1.0 White Headed Dwarf Geckos
1.0.0 Morelia SP Jungle Jaguar
1.0.0 BCI Nicaraguan Salmon
1.0.0 Reticulated Python.Tiger/50% Jampea

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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2265 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  20:19:36  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's another guide to run your eyes through

http://www.ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.html


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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2013 :  20:27:57  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rustyp1974

I just looked at the wizard & crossing two Nuke's could be fun.....if you've won the lottery that is!


would be fairly pointless as you'd end up with super fires or super butter both primarily all white snakes, the best thing to do with a nuclear morph would be to breed with pattern mutations like clown, genetic stripe ect nuclear pied would be awesome or try play about with other non bel complex colour mutations to see what happens

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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Joeboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2013 :  00:32:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Evolution Morphs

Here's another guide to run your eyes through

http://www.ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.html



Thanks for this....
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rustyp1974
Sub Adult

France
554 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2013 :  15:36:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Trying to get my head round this genetics stuff as I'm trying to work out what to save up for.
Been playing around on the wizard, but what would you get visually if you paired Caramel Albino with Axanthic?
I'm asking as my local shop has both of these at ok prices, not that im anywhere near ready to buy..lol


1.0.0 Classic Royal Python - Apsalar
0.1.0 Fire Pinstripe Royal Python - Ember
1.1.0 Het Clown Royals (Male Pastel)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon GG X Sandfire - Bert
1.1.O Sunset Bearded Dragons
1.0.0 Veiled/Yemen Chameleon - Ernie.RIP.
0.0.1 Pandinus Cavimanus Africanus
1.1.0 White Headed Dwarf Geckos
1.0.0 Morelia SP Jungle Jaguar
1.0.0 BCI Nicaraguan Salmon
1.0.0 Reticulated Python.Tiger/50% Jampea

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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2265 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2013 :  16:05:58  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
all normals double het caramel albinos / axanthic


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