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Bob101
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
24 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2013 :  22:16:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is my first time dealing with a royal, I got him about 2 weeks ago, and today is his feeding day so I took him out of his RUB and placed him with his small mouse and left him. He had no interest in the mouse at all so I moved him and the mouse into his RUB to stay overnight to c if he would take it! No joy, so I removed it! Tonight I thought I would try him again with a mouse to c, left gonna a few hours with it again no joy! So there now i went to move him bck to his Home, noticing as I looked at him that he might be starting blue hence no interest in the mouse! When I went to lift him into his RUB he struck at my hand!! This kinda shocked me! So I don't know what to do now with him, don't wanna stick my hand near him at the moment if he is gonna choose that as a target instead of his mouse or something so I have opted to place a hide in his feeding RUB and place that bck on his heat mat!! My corns have never struck me and I have had them for years, have a royal for just over 2 weeks and get struck! :( not a nice feeling as a owner!! :(

Foremand
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/06/2013 :  22:23:37  Show Profile  Click to see Foremand's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
When royals go into blue. It effects the vision. So there mostly blind. So instead of aiming for your hand. He was just striking for a dinner item but as he couldn't see where it was, they try n strike to we're they think it is. So just mistook your hand for dinner.


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acd1984
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
687 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2013 :  23:50:03  Show Profile  Click to see acd1984's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If you feed frozen thawed, be sure to warm the rat/mouse up a little so they have something to aim for, other wise they go nuts but cant find dinner lol

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rockroyal
Yearling

United Kingdom
470 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2013 :  07:59:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
also moving him in out in out to fed him for me is not a good idea once he has finished his shed as above warm his meal a little and feed him in his normal home royals can become stressed moving them to a feeding tub

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richard v
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
563 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2013 :  16:12:54  Show Profile  Click to see richard v's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Dont worry about it, it's not personal, snakes can get touchy when coming into shed as I found out recently when the same thing happened with my boa, she is quite a large snake, but I should of seen it coming really she was deep in shed. I know it's difficult once you get struck as it knocks your confidence but don't be scared and just carry on as normal, they don't generally strike for no reason unless threatened and in your case you know the reason as going into shed.also if your snake does not eat try leaving it longer next time 5days should do,as moving him around can stress them a little. I have always fed in the viv for this reason, just place some kitchen roll in as a mat or a small wall tile for them to feed off. If your worried put a jumper and a glove on to move him back to his permanent home.
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herriotfan
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United Kingdom
812 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2013 :  16:23:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh dear, please don't let this put you off royals.
The good thing is that you know why and have been offered a solution.
2 weeks isn't that long for him to settle in either, give him time to get settled more.
I find my royals just as soppy as my corns to be honest.


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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2013 :  22:08:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's a fact of keeping snakes that at one time or another (or both) you will absolutely get bitten. As to why he struck its most likely that as he is still new to you he is still a little bit nervous of his surroundings. Don't worry too much that he didn't eat, settling in can take a few weeks. I'd ditch the feeding tub though, Royals really aren't show off snakes when they feed, lots won't eat if they so much as suspect you're watching just leave it a week and sneak its mouse into his RUB just before you go to bed and hopefully it will be gone, well unless he is actually in the shedding process, then I'd wait until a few days after he has shed.

Back to the bite briefly, the speed they hit is far worse than the hit itself. Makes you jump out of your skin but the teeth are so unbelievably sharp you'll barely feel the bite. If you do get bitten wash and disinfect the wound as soon as you can to avoid infection but Royal bites are rare, and they'll be more likely to hiss and bluff strike.



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Zoe
Yearling

187 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2013 :  19:06:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always feed Oscar in his viv, same spot under heat lamp. He's used to his lil routine

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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2013 :  10:06:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's what you need to do;

1) take a roll of kitchen roll, rolled up newspaper, notepad....pretty much anything really
2) Move this in front of his face until you touch him with it, dont worry if he strikes
3) As you are doing this, with your other hand grab his body away from his head
4) Lift and move

:)

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badwool
Sub Adult

658 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2013 :  10:07:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

It's a fact of keeping snakes that at one time or another (or both) you will absolutely get bitten. As to why he struck its most likely that as he is still new to you he is still a little bit nervous of his surroundings. Don't worry too much that he didn't eat, settling in can take a few weeks. I'd ditch the feeding tub though, Royals really aren't show off snakes when they feed, lots won't eat if they so much as suspect you're watching just leave it a week and sneak its mouse into his RUB just before you go to bed and hopefully it will be gone, well unless he is actually in the shedding process, then I'd wait until a few days after he has shed.

Back to the bite briefly, the speed they hit is far worse than the hit itself. Makes you jump out of your skin but the teeth are so unbelievably sharp you'll barely feel the bite. If you do get bitten wash and disinfect the wound as soon as you can to avoid infection but Royal bites are rare, and they'll be more likely to hiss and bluff strike.




+1 on feeding in situ.

Never get why people remove to feed.

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eyeball
Yearling

United Kingdom
114 Posts

Posted - 18/06/2013 :  13:52:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Same here. Always fed in the viv, putting him in a rub just seems like too much effort and likely to stress them out when they're used to being tucked up in their nice warm house. I've put a vid up of me feeding Noodles in the video section if you're interested.

I always feed him with the main room light on and we watch him so that he's grown up used to us gawping at him! I love watching him feed and the part when the rats tail slips into his mouth like a bit of sphagetti always makes me smile!

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Edited by - eyeball on 18/06/2013 13:52:48
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Bob101
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
24 Posts

Posted - 18/06/2013 :  22:13:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cheers guys for all the replies. Lecter has officially shed, however he has retained some of his skin on tail, how would you recommend swift removal of his skin. if it was my corn i would just let him slide through a damp cloth, then attempt to pick it off. however i dont really wanna stress my little guy out.
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richard v
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
563 Posts

Posted - 18/06/2013 :  23:08:01  Show Profile  Click to see richard v's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I would try excatly what you do with your corn, but you could just keep up the humidity for another day or so see if he gets it off himself. It's important you make sure that piece of shed gets removed though.
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Bob101
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
24 Posts

Posted - 27/06/2013 :  16:36:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers guys for all the replies. lecter has since Been handled and seems to getting out and about!
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