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lukegriffiths1993
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
25 Posts

Posted - 31/08/2013 :  23:16:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've had my new royal for nearly 6 months and its weird to see that he hasn't shed once? He did look like he went into blue, then came out but did not shed weeks after. Hes feeding on smalls as i don't want to up his food to fast hes been feeding on smalls ever since I've had him now.
Anyone had same problems?

Foremand
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/08/2013 :  23:20:25  Show Profile  Click to see Foremand's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
How often do you feed him?!What's the weight of him? As he may not be eating as much as what he should need

The size if food should be around 10-15% weight of your snake.

Say your snake weighs 100g he should eat 10-15g mouse.

Mine is coming up a year old and has been on large mice since I got him just before Christmas. And sheds every month or two



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Edited by - Foremand on 31/08/2013 23:22:29
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lukegriffiths1993
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/09/2013 :  00:06:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My snake weighs around 330 grams, and he gets fed every Tuesday. I would say he can definitely eat a large but i don't want to up his feed too fast.
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Foremand
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/09/2013 :  00:40:39  Show Profile  Click to see Foremand's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah he should defiantly be on a large. I would up him to a large straight away. There no harm in doing that. He'll feel better for it. Possibly more lively. And more active. He'll grow quicker and have a more strengthened and sturdier body.

What's the reason for not upping his food fast?

Imagine a shed is a coat. As someone grows the bigger the coat. So as your snake gets bigger. He'll need to she'd the smaller shed off in order to grow.

In the long run your not being fair to the snake. He needs the bigger meals in order to grow and live a healthy life.

How old is the snake? You say you had his 6 months. That since birth? Or is he older?


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phlegmatical
Yearling

United Kingdom
403 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2013 :  07:25:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mine is around 400g and on jumbo/xl mice (won't take rats). I agree with what formand says
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rustyp1974
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France
554 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2013 :  09:33:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also agree with the above.

As an example my Normal weighs 235g and is a year old today. She's taking a 20-30g Rat every week. My Fire Pinstripe is a year and two months & weighs 500g, she takes a 40-50g Rat every week.

My normal had been a really fussy eater when I first got her but now she's a proper little pig. I got her onto rats with no trouble by warming the rat in the same box as a mouse with the hairdryer. As soon as she gets a sniff of it she periscopes up out of her RUB looking for the food, great fun to watch & very satisfying to see.

So I guess if you can get yours eating a 30g mouse or rat once a week you'll soon see a regular shed pattern. Mine shed every three months (roughly)


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phlegmatical
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/09/2013 :  09:41:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tried that, he won't touch a mouse if it's been near a rat lol. I've accepted the fact that im going to have to give him mouse after mouse as he grows now!
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Foremand
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
968 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2013 :  10:34:32  Show Profile  Click to see Foremand's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by phlegmatical

I tried that, he won't touch a mouse if it's been near a rat lol. I've accepted the fact that im going to have to give him mouse after mouse as he grows now!



But either way. Phlegmatical snake is still getting the required food that a snake needs.

I would suggest putting him onto mediums. For a month and then onto large. He needs the minimum required food amount. And currently isn't getting it.


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Edited by - Foremand on 01/09/2013 10:48:56
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jonnyc1988
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/09/2013 :  10:53:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why don't you want to up his feed too fast? If he's ready for the next size then feed him them. I don't remember my royal being on smalls for very long at all?!?


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lukegriffiths1993
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
25 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2013 :  11:23:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes i will up his food, thanks.
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/09/2013 :  20:07:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Take snakes weight and feed him 10-15% of his body weight. That's empty weight.

Weight to feeding schedule, not a rule, more of a guide. Hasn't let me down.

1-500 grams = feed every 5 days
501-1000 = every 7 days
1001-1500 = every 10 days
1500+ = every 14 days





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Foremand
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
968 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2013 :  20:33:28  Show Profile  Click to see Foremand's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

Take snakes weight and feed him 10-15% of his body weight. That's empty weight.

Weight to feeding schedule, not a rule, more of a guide. Hasn't let me down.

1-500 grams = feed every 5 days
501-1000 = every 7 days
1001-1500 = every 10 days
1500+ = every 14 days






Looks like a very good guide there


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Edited by - Foremand on 01/09/2013 20:33:58
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