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ashby_steve
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
 Posted - 26/09/2013 : 10:24:45
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I've owned two corns for 7 years now and have recently built my own viv with two vivs at the top and a larger one at the bottom.
I am looking to buy a royal to put in the bottom (although while small he/she will be in one of the top ones)
just wondering
A. will the royal will be ok in such close proximity to the corns because of the smell?
and B. what differences are there between keeping a corn and keeping a royal other than the obvious size difference?
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
908 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2013 : 11:57:12
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Yes you can keep them next to each other, the smell wont bother the other.
Corn snakes are a lot hardier than royals. Royals need much more precision in terms of temperature/conditions. This is still easily achieved though. Royals wont eat if their temps are wrong or they dont have satisfactory hiding places.
I presume you keep your corns on heat mats? These are no good for royals, due to their big bodies they block the heat from the mat causing the thermostat to think its colder than it actually is and therefore burning your royal. You need a ceramic heat bulb with a guard and a pulse proportional thermostat.
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1.0.0 Pastel Royal Python - Juju CB11
0.1.0 Western Hognose - Hetti CB12
1.0.0 Fire Harlequin Crested Gecko - Jasper CB13
0.1.0 Het Kahl Common Boa (bci) - Pandora CB13
1.3.0 Viper geckos
1.1.0 66% PH Toffee 50% Kayuadi reticulated pythons
0.1.0 Platinum Tiger Reticulated python |
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ashby_steve
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2013 : 12:13:27
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yeah the corns are on mats.
I noticed you specified ceramic heat bulb, is that mandatory or will a regular heat bulb be as adequate? |
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ashby_steve
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2013 : 12:15:39
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| Well actually i cant be doing with a light turning on and off with the thermostat lol maybe ill go ceramic! |
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
908 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2013 : 12:38:40
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| Yeah, dont think your snake would appreciate the disco either |
1.0.0 Pastel Royal Python - Juju CB11
0.1.0 Western Hognose - Hetti CB12
1.0.0 Fire Harlequin Crested Gecko - Jasper CB13
0.1.0 Het Kahl Common Boa (bci) - Pandora CB13
1.3.0 Viper geckos
1.1.0 66% PH Toffee 50% Kayuadi reticulated pythons
0.1.0 Platinum Tiger Reticulated python |
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2013 : 17:16:39
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Royals and Corns have different temperature requirements. Royals require higher temps (85-95 Fahrenheit) whereas Corn's ideal temp is 75-85 Fahrenheit. But the main difference between Royal Pythons and Corn Snakes is the humidity requirement. Corns are not particular with humidity whereas Royals are. Royals require at least 50% humidity, higher during shed.
In London, it might not matter since humidity is usually high there all throughout the year (far as I know, I've never really set foot in the UK) but here in North Florida, humidity can range between 10 and 90 depending on the weather. Okay, as you can see, Corns are native to North Florida, so they can handle this big humidity swings. A Royal can't. When the humidity drops here, I have to put humid hides on my Royals' enclosures otherwise they go off feed or get splotchy sheds.
Also, on the temperature, indoor temperatures of most North Florida households (70 Fahrenheit) is perfect for corns. You put a heat mat on one end and the stat only goes on a short time and the ambient goes to 75 and the hot end goes to 85. Easy breasy. Royals will go off feed with this temp. They need the ambient at 85 and go to 95 on the hot end so your stat needs to be set higher.
Adult Corns are heavy enough to trap heat from heat mats as well. So, it doesn't matter if you have royals or corns, you need to put a spacer under the enclosures to guarantee proper airflow around the heat mats even with the snakes sitting directly on top of the mat. I have rubs and I use CD cases around the heat mats to prevent heat trapping as the rubs tend to bend especially when heated.
Okay, on ceramic heat lamps. I don't use them mainly because I live in North Florida that has big humidity swings. Ceramic heat lamps suck humidity right out of my enclosures. This is fine for Corns but not fine with Royals.
As far as proximity... as long as they're in different enclosures, they can be within kissing distance across the dividers and they won't be bothered. You'll need an opaque divider though so they can't easily see each other through the divider.
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Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
1.0.0 normal western hognose |
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
908 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2013 : 17:22:37
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| Humidity isnt an issue in the UK for Royals. Just make sure to raise it with a bit of misting during shedding. |
1.0.0 Pastel Royal Python - Juju CB11
0.1.0 Western Hognose - Hetti CB12
1.0.0 Fire Harlequin Crested Gecko - Jasper CB13
0.1.0 Het Kahl Common Boa (bci) - Pandora CB13
1.3.0 Viper geckos
1.1.0 66% PH Toffee 50% Kayuadi reticulated pythons
0.1.0 Platinum Tiger Reticulated python |
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ashby_steve
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 27/09/2013 : 10:12:07
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| Massive help, Thanks guys :) |
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