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carlb1981
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 19:10:03

Not sure what has caused this in my beardie viv i don't know if its the slimline ceramic with it sitting closer to roof or if wiring burning has caused it, any ideas?

Before rubbing it

after rubbing was quite deep

the wiring

and the holder

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Foremand
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 19:14:58

Do you have good ventilation in the viv? Mine done this. It's were the heat is on constantly. And it builds up within the ceramic. Best bet. Try putting some heat proof may between the holder and viv.

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carlb1981
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 19:56:57

I've took the ceramic out now and just using the basking bulb

jimmer7
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 20:08:10

If it was a short ceramic, that will cause it, I had same thing with habistat radiator ceramic untill I got a metal heat guard, theres just not enough space between top of viv and ceramic. There is a certain make of ceramic thats real short and stubby, if you get too low a watt it got to work 100% all the time, viv and wire cant take it.

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carlb1981
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 20:28:04

It was a white python slimline ceramic it sat 2-3" from roof of viv

boomslang
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 21:01:30

Sounds like simple heat build up.where the holder and wires aren't designed to take it.being that close and in direct contact with the wood.

This is why i never ended up buying a slim line ceramic.Went with a rad instead for new viv.
Needs to be a gap,or holder designed by them for their bulbs.

quote:
if you get too low a watt it got to work 100% all the time, viv and wire cant take it.

yep to right :)

did you email them carl?.Also there bringing out there own bulb holders etc soon.Maybe they already no this can happen :P

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carlb1981
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 21:24:47

No i haven't emailed them do you think its worth emailing them? The ceramic only worked anywhere over 20% for 1st hour or 2 in morning then it went off due to basking bulb keeping the heat looking at it i was lucky it didn't start a fire

jonnyc1988
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 21:31:03

Definitely worth emailing them then. Someone else could have the same problem and not realise, might burn their house down.

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boomslang
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 21:35:07

I have a gap,or a heat guard between the holder and roof.As always worried about stuff like this.Being a slim bulb and close to the roof,Its no surprise stuff like this happens.With the long ceramics the heat has more space to dissipate etc etc etc.

It might have been the holder,But it looks undamged.From the pics it looks like pure heat build up on the base of the holder.

So yeah id email them,or phone them :) see what they have to say.

carlb1981
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 21:56:46

Will send them an email, I've just noticed on their site they state to be used with there holder which looks to be one that hangs from roof by the power cable

boomslang
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 22:06:40

I looked around for ya,States in afew places.To be used with a hook or holder,that gives you a gap.Or a dome wire cage thing etc etc.
Or else will cause "Burning of wood" heat build up etc etc.

they might email you back saying.it should have been obvious to you.that screwing it to the roof would cause that

I went with a rad over these,as after you mess around there's not much difference between it and a normal bulb :P

Edited by - Lotabob on 24/10/2013 14:11:46

carlb1981
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 22:15:15

I've sent this to them
Hi I've been using one of your slimline ceramic bulbs in my beardies viv for the past 6 months, i noticed today that the viv roof above the ceramic was burnt badly i was just using a normal ceramic bulb holder the type that screws to the roof directly and after looking at your website i noticed you recommend using your own holder which hangs from viv roof which would probably have prevented this. As i bought the bulb from an ebay seller this isn't stated in their advert so just making you aware that maybe people are using incorrect holders that may cause fire and maybe if you could state on the bulbs packaging so as it stands out as a warning to prevent this from happening.
Thank you Carl

carlb1981
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 22:16:53

Wish id kept the packaging to see if it does already state on it to be used with hook type holder, i know it doesn't state on ebay that's needed

boomslang
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 22:25:32

Sounds good :) but they don't state anywhere which holders you must use :) there holder is rubbish to :P better of with a bracket,so you can space the holder afew inches down.without having to drill holes through the roof.

But they don't state anywhere,its bad to use normal type holders.It might seem obvious,but guess not

they do say.."coming soon new holders etc etc"

So maybe their new stuff will be an easy to setup holder and work with this great.

Edited by - Lotabob on 24/10/2013 14:12:56

carlb1981
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 22:46:39

Lol it didn't even cross my mind at the time i just thought it was a great idea so i didn't have to buy a long unsightly guard

boomslang
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Posted - 19/10/2013 : 23:07:58

quote:
Originally posted by carlb1981

Lol it didn't even cross my mind at the time i just thought it was a great idea so i didn't have to buy a long unsightly guard

that's what i thought when looking for something to replace a normal one.but after a gap or putting it on a bracket,plus a gaurd etc i just thought fck it,and went with a rad.

boomslang
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Posted - 20/10/2013 : 13:53:48

Get an email back yet?

carlb1981
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Posted - 20/10/2013 : 14:03:32

No not yet still waiting

chrisc
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Posted - 20/10/2013 : 17:35:19

lucky you spotted this before it caught fire.

seem's kind of pointless getting a slimline bulb if you need a different bulb holder an would still need a standard bulb guard

is is ok to steal a couple of your pic's so i can make a warning post on my group's about this?

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carlb1981
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Posted - 20/10/2013 : 19:12:15

Yeah of course Chris fire away i was gonna post this on rfuk too as a warning would hate to think others are using them and risking fire especially since this happened to mine and it only ran first couple hours in morning at most id imagine someone using one as main heat source would be more at risk?

chrisc
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Posted - 20/10/2013 : 19:23:59

thank's
yea i dread to think of what could happen if someone is using it as a main heat source.
i don't post on RFUK anymore but can put a post of this up on captive bred

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