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rockroyal
Yearling
United Kingdom
470 Posts |
 Posted - 25/10/2013 : 16:45:43
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There are some right idiots in the dark side there even having a pop at this forum calling up stamp collectors because most of us keep our royals in rubs . There saying 33l and 50l rubs are not good enough for keeping royals in.
What they fall to understand in there one tracked thinking is wrong and its very clear not many of them keep royals and don't understand most royals are more than happy in rubs and can stop feeding if put into a viv. |
3.1.0 royal python
2.0.0 corn snake
0.1.0 western hognose
0.1.0 bci
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PythonManDan
Yearling
United Kingdom
150 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2013 : 17:07:02
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| I've seen that thread and noticed that comment regarding this forum. Totally agree with you, there's been some right daft comments made. There always seems to be controversial and argumentative threads on there. |
4.0.0 Normal, Pastel, Champagne & Albino Super Pastel Royal Pythons
0.3.0 Pastel, Spider & Albino Spider Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Irian Jaya Carpet Python
0.1.0 Diamond Jungle Jaguar Carpet Python
1.0.0 Diamond Python
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1197 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2013 : 17:44:56
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| I wouldn`t take any notice of what they say, most of the members on there are there just for an arguement anyway. |
Royals owned "lots"
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herriotfan
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
812 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2013 : 19:19:16
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I've only ever known people to slag others off on there.
This is a much better place to be. It's friendly here and if anyone needs help or pointing in the right direction it's done in the kindest possible way.
They would do well to remember the saying "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" Even if it's a difficult subject and somebody is clearly in the wrong there are ways to correct them without being down right nasty.
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Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
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1.2.0 Royal Pythons (Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2013 : 19:41:19
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| Had to have my say lol he's just out to cause arguments in my opinion as there's more than royal owners who use rubs |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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rockroyal
Yearling
United Kingdom
470 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2013 : 19:43:26
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| That's a very good point well made |
3.1.0 royal python
2.0.0 corn snake
0.1.0 western hognose
0.1.0 bci
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1527 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2013 : 19:45:54
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| Now im gonna sit back and watch the keyboard warriors lol |
3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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rockroyal
Yearling
United Kingdom
470 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2013 : 19:50:04
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| Ha ha I must admit I keep looking in on the thread just for laughs |
3.1.0 royal python
2.0.0 corn snake
0.1.0 western hognose
0.1.0 bci
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2013 : 20:56:51
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I use 50l rubs myself, I wouldn't use 33l and I imagine people who use 60l say the same about my 50l it's all personal preference and doing what you think is right for your animal.
I have one female that I'm looking into moving into a tub bigger than 50l purely because she's a monster, I look at each snake differently and they get homes suited to their needs.
I have used viv stacks before I started using RUBs so I've been on both ends of this age old debate personally I much prefer RUB's at the cost of having my rack look a bit ****ty (plastic just doesn't have that nice look a viv does) I get much cleaner homes, easier to move around, easier to heat and clouded plastic instead of glass which personally I think royals much prefer.
But as I always say each to their own, long as people do their research I don't care how they keep their animals. |
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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
3326 Posts |
Posted - 25/10/2013 : 21:03:15
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personally i wouldn't keep an adult royal in a 50ltr rub
also i would only use a rub rack for hatchling/juvenile snake's |
1.0.0 burmese python,giblet. 1.0.0 BCI, william. 0.1.0 blue tongue skink, 0.1.0 green iguana, jasmin, 1.0.0 cape house snake, 0.1.0 checkered garter snake
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jonnyc1988
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
908 Posts |
Posted - 26/10/2013 : 07:30:05
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The "stamp collector" comment is funny!! 
To be honest, I think Royals are happier in Rubs than vivs.
I keep mine in a viv because im all about the aesthetics of keeping snakes. I just love observing my snake hiding under his bark all day...
I think if I had multiple royals theres no doubt i would have them in rubs in a rack. |
1.0.0 Pastel Royal Python - Juju CB11
0.1.0 Western Hognose - Hetti CB12
1.0.0 Fire Harlequin Crested Gecko - Jasper CB13
0.1.0 Het Kahl Common Boa (bci) - Pandora CB13
1.3.0 Viper geckos
1.1.0 66% PH Toffee 50% Kayuadi reticulated pythons
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phlegmatical
Yearling
United Kingdom
403 Posts |
Posted - 26/10/2013 : 07:46:55
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| i only got to the 4th page and got bored of it. I have asked a few questions over there and got some great replies but it feels like if you give any information away about your setup, temps etc they pounce and tell you its all wrong and you shouldn't be allowed to keep reps |
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jonoandapril
Yearling
United Kingdom
455 Posts |
Posted - 26/10/2013 : 08:51:27
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I keep all mine bar the carpet python and the hatchis in 50l rubs. If I had them all in vivs id have run out of space long ago! Plus my rubs look to be a lot bigger than some of the tubs iv seen the main breeders on youtube keeping them in. Iv found my royals feed better and are quite a bit more active (out at night exploring etc) since I made the change. I suppose its down to each snake but I wouldnt hesitate to put any that didnt seem happy back in to vivs if I thought it would help.
I dont use the darkside at all. This is the first forum I found and have never had any need to go anywhere else for helpfull and prompt answers to my questions from friendly members. |
1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
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Fezza
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1063 Posts |
Posted - 26/10/2013 : 10:03:29
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| Darkside=sales section only |
1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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Baobab
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1393 Posts |
Posted - 26/10/2013 : 10:13:53
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Isn't a 33l rub a bit big for keeping stamps in.
Personally I prefer vivs but don't have a problem with any housing if the snake is "happy". We are probably going to start using RUBs at some point, but will try to keep the adults in vivs. |
Royal 8.0 - Piebald (Dipstick), Calico (Flake), Pinstripe (Copper), Kingpin het Hypo (Gabriel), Soulsucker (Morgoth), Clown (Ziggy), Phantom (Spook), Enchi( Stenchi) .................Royal 0.12 - Pastel (Elanor), Spider (Willow), Normal het pied (Loki),, Pastel Sterling Orange Hypo (Misty), Normal (WC parents) (Cinders), Pewter (Tinuviel), Yellowbelly (Kaiko), Mojave (Milly), Champagne (Bubbles), Fire (Flame), Karma paradox (Smudge), Amoretti (Rita).Boa's 2.2.1- Eowyn (common), Snuggles (BCC), Bonnie (BCC), Bear (BCL) & Baileys (Kahl strain)..........Western Hognose 0.0.2 - Timmy & Henry.
Coastal*diamond carpet python 0.0.1- Pippin.........Brazilian Rainbow Boa 0.0.1 - Badger..........Granite Burmese 0.1 - Sally
Reticulated python 2.2 - Saru (purple albino), Cheesy (Sunfire albino white), Titan (Platinum Titanium) & Gala (Sunfiretiger het albino)......Rat snake 1.0 Remmy.
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anatess
Sub Adult
USA
669 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2013 : 03:16:27
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Who says rubs aren't aesthetic?
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Snake owner since Oct 2008, so yeah, I'm no expert.
0.1.0 pastel royal
1.0.0 spider royal
0.1.0 albino royal
1.0.0 bumblebee royal
1.0.0 yellowbelly royal
0.0.1 wild-type royal
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2013 : 20:37:57
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Oh no. Were they talking about me? I work with stamps and I do keep ones I like. No can't be me I keep them in a folder like all other stamp collectors.
There will always be opinions that conflict with others, for instance I don't keep my snakes in Rubs, I like to display my snakes (displaying a Royal, am I serious) but I have used Rubs and there is absolutely no good reason why you can't, I keep my frog in one. It would be interesting to hear the reasons they believe that you can't keep snakes in a APPROPRIATELY SIZED rub.
Anyway as a nice and calm forum that we are I'm sure the dark side has its uses. |
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1197 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2013 : 13:34:38
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Originally posted by Lotabob
I'm sure the dark side has its uses.
Apart from selling or buying they are what? |
Royals owned "lots"
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2025 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2013 : 14:09:08
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What they fall to understand in there one tracked thinking is wrong and its very clear not many of them keep royals and don't understand most royals are more than happy in rubs and can stop feeding if put into a viv.
That's not at all true.
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If I had them all in vivs id have run out of space long ago!
Yeah totally,that viv space could fit six rubs,and six more snakes.It's far more important to base your housing on how many you can jam into a space.Not getting at you,but how you worded that.Sounds like having more,is more important then anything.
I've used rubs,But when you use the bare minimum housing.Its down to you waiting more snakes per area etc.More so,to people that have lots and lots.Then try to justify it with poor outdated facts. |
1.0.0 pinstripe Royal Python
1.0.0 Bumblebee Royal Python
1.0.0 Normal corn
1.0.0 Extreme red Hognose
0.1.0 Extreme red tiger Hognose
1.1.0 yemen chameleons
1.0.0 Piebald yemen
1.0.0 Tamatave panther
1.0.0 Quadricornis
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