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Spierzo90
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2014 :  23:25:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey everyone thinking of picking up a little royal from my local pet store

Just wondering if I should get a rub or a monksfield terrarium to house him I think he's 2/3 months old at present

I know about substrate hides temps and humidity but being from the uk (Northern Ireland) it's pretty wet here a lot so would that benefit the humidity in any way ?

Any beginner advice would be much appreciated

boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2014 :  02:44:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'd get a rub,then a viv :) As with the monksfield terrarium,it's a larger cost for starters over a rub.Plus,you'll be replacing it with something larger in no time.The money saved,you can put towards a normal viv.

Use a rub for the baby,then get a 3 foot viv etc if you so wish.I wouldn't worry about the humidity.

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Alves76
Yearling

United Kingdom
333 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2014 :  09:06:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Spierzo. I can't offer any advice (I only joined yesterday too and only have first snake), but I was thinking the exact same thing as you re: the humidity. I also live in NI so I was thinking that the humidity would be a problem. Let me tell you what I found out...

I bought a viv and put the faunarium in it for now. Because I was putting the faun into the viv I got a heat mat to put under the faun. However, I tested the humidity when using a heat mat and the percentage relative humidity was quite high (> 70% RH). However, when dishing the mat and using the ceramic heater in the viv the humidity has been a constant 55% RH for the last few days. Not sure if there are other factors involved there, but that's what happened to me.

I got myself one of these....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Temperature-Humidity-Meter-Thermometer/dp/B004GN9EH2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395392618&sr=8-1&keywords=hygrometer

It looks basic and it is, but the readings are surprisingly accurate (I've tested it against high spec temp/humidity dataloggers and the values are very close).


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Spierzo90
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2014 :  09:24:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does it come with a probe tho for the temperature reading? I have two with probes just need to get a hygrometer now but I've heard people say not to worry about humidity until it's time to shed
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Alves76
Yearling

United Kingdom
333 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2014 :  09:30:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It doesn't come with a probe. I just set it in the back corner and it seems to be fine there. There are ones with probes for not much more. A quick amazon search will get what you need.

I heard the same about the humidity but I also hear that too high a humidity level can cause respiratory infection, so I figure, what's the harm in checking the levels constantly, whether in shed or not, so that I can keep an eye on it - especially since it rains here 364 days in the year.

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Spierzo90
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2014 :  10:06:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The joys of our beautiful country mate that's why it's so green lol hoping to set a rub up in the next few days n then go get him after the weekend :)
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Alves76
Yearling

United Kingdom
333 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2014 :  10:07:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where are you getting him from?

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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2014 :  16:13:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
However, when dishing the mat and using the ceramic heater in the viv the humidity has been a constant 55% RH for the last few days.
that's cuz the ceramic will suck the moisture out of the air,it heats the air etc,rather then a mat.which only heats the small area above it.

The humidity will always be around 40% to 60% in the uk,depending on afew things.it shouldn't fall below that amount or get to high.
In your wooden viv with a ceramic,you aren't going to find the vivs humidity being 90% everyday.even if it rains non stop outside :P
And a rub with a heatmat will hold higher humidity.

Alot of people just spray the vivs or add moss or whatever.Around shedding time to up the humidity.

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coxcats
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/03/2014 :  17:53:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't actually monitor the humidity in my vivs. I just usually either spray the vivs or bung in a small bowl of hot water with a guard on it, where they cant tip it over, when it's shed time.

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Spierzo90
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 21/03/2014 :  23:50:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Getting him from pets at home mate
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 22/03/2014 :  04:53:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it a normal? and are there no other pet shops around you? how much they asking ?

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Alves76
Yearling

United Kingdom
333 Posts

Posted - 22/03/2014 :  08:15:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where abouts do you live? There are quite a few places that are cheaper than pets at home and are proper reptile dealers.

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Spierzo90
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 22/03/2014 :  09:06:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah it's a normal there looking £60 ... I live in Bangor mate my previous reptiles have all been from city reptiles in the city centre but because pets at home is close was just a convenience lol
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 22/03/2014 :  14:51:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
£60 is okay :) just don't buy a viv and stuff from there lol :P and make sure it's healthy etc.

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Alves76
Yearling

United Kingdom
333 Posts

Posted - 22/03/2014 :  16:31:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was thinking the same as boomslang. I am just back from pets at home Lisburn and they had a juvenile royal in a wrong setup and a mouse thrown into the corner. It didn't look right. If you can make the trip to Moira (not THAT far) there's a place called Emerald Isle Reptiles. They have loads of royal pythons ready to go (cheaper too). I was there during the week and they have a good selection. It's run from a guy's house and he looks after them well. You might get a better snake there - just a suggestion.

Perhaps Pets at Home have a good after-care policy. That said, you may well pick up a cracker.

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Spierzo90
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 22/03/2014 :  18:46:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll check the snake over at pets at home n if I think anything looks suspicious I'll leave it but for 60 it's not bad was in the other day just looking and asked to see his feeding schedule and he seemed to be feeding fine
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 22/03/2014 :  20:01:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not all pets at home are bad :P local one near me isn't to bad.wouldn't buy an animal from there or any gear now.but sometimes pickup food/live food etc.

If you can't get anywhere else,don't want a morph etc.then £60 isn't to bad :)

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Spierzo90
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 23/03/2014 :  09:14:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What's the main things to check when getting him ... Mites left eyecaps cuts or sores left shed etc?
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boomslang
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2025 Posts

Posted - 23/03/2014 :  15:30:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mites,sores,eyecaps,bad shed,burns or stuff like that.Look at how he's kept to.Is the setup right and clean and tidy?Listen for any popping or wheezing sounds when it breathes out.Ask them how its feeding etc :)

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