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kashie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  15:26:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Went to the reptile shop at my local garden centre - yes I know we dont recommend buying from them, but they are closing their reptile section and we went to see if they had any reductions and bargins we could scoop up.

Anyway, the boy who seems to take care of that section had approached my friend and told her to have a look at a Royal they had had in the day before.

On closer inspection, we thought it could be some kind of het, as it seems to have some different colourations and markings.

I had been on you tube the day before watching ralfe davies and he had pointed out how you might identify a het pied bald.

This little fella today seems to have those features - though we cant be 100% sure.

On asking the price it is £90 even though the boy in the shop seems to think there could be something special about it.

Should we take the chance and buy it hoping to get something out of it in the future????

Researching morphs - all the repitable breeders tell you to look for unusual marks, lines and colours - so should we go for it????

ANY advice please??



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey

wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  15:38:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
photos are best.

also even if it has markers for hets it is no guarantee ..the only way you might know if it is a het is if you know what the parents are..

I might be wrong so wait for BE to reply..



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Blackecho
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  15:43:21  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
No Anne, you're right. The problem with Pied markers is that not all het Pied's have them and normal Royals can have them too, so its nowhere near foolproof.

Paying £90 is over the odds and only worthwhile if you've got, or will be getting, another Pied to breed with it on the off-chance that you may have got lucky.



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kashie
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United Kingdom
567 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2009 :  15:55:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I know that to get pied balds you have to have another to breed it with but a friend of ours already has a genuine het and has been looking to get a pied to mate it with - so this is why I am querying.
Anyway - thanks for the advice - will contact mate - perhaps he can come and view it with me.



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey
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matty18714
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  16:01:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As Anne and Piers have said, the markers are no gaurentee. But, if you think your lucky, try and get them to knock the price down (as they are closing).

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kashie
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  19:18:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Went back to garden centre managed to knock them down to £70, and bought the snake.

Not bothered whether its a true het pied, we decided that the colour and markings are different and would be nice to breed anyway. Nice and friendly to handle have taken a picture but not too good, will get more after his settling in period.



Photo not really showing true colour and not very focused.
He has a real orange going down his sides and has tram lines on his underside.



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey

Edited by - kashie on 05/07/2009 19:21:00
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  20:15:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
he is gorgeous...


would be very nice with a pastel or maybe even a lesser if those stripes were to prove out..

what do you think BE?



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kashie
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  20:17:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Our next morph is going to be a pastel then a lesser so you never know!!!



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  20:25:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i am after a pastel and a cinny...but am going to wait and see what is available at Donny...

i can get both from a breeder, but want to wait as prices my drop a bit as well yet....



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Blackecho
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  20:36:20  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes Anne, a Lesser/Butter would be lovely if those patterns are at all genetic.



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  20:48:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

Yes Anne, a Lesser/Butter would be lovely if those patterns are at all genetic.



didnt think of the Butters..

Butter stripes are awesome..

Have you seen the ones on CB that Markus Jayne has bred..?

Butter Pastel Pin...

http://www.captivebredreptileforums.co.uk/ball-royal-pythons/26027-some-new-stuff-question.html


stunning...



"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
-- Source Unknown






Edited by - wolfspirit on 05/07/2009 20:50:55
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AddicksGlenn
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388 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2009 :  20:59:21  Show Profile  Click to see AddicksGlenn's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit

quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

Yes Anne, a Lesser/Butter would be lovely if those patterns are at all genetic.



didnt think of the Butters..

Butter stripes are awesome..

Have you seen the ones on CB that Markus Jayne has bred..?

Butter Pastel Pin...

http://www.captivebredreptileforums.co.uk/ball-royal-pythons/26027-some-new-stuff-question.html


stunning...



I love the look of the Butter BumbleBee. It's wicked.

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  21:02:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you seen Rachels Bees? one of them has an awesome pattern..

but i prefer those Butter Pins, i think they are outstanding...



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Kazerella
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Posted - 06/07/2009 :  15:27:33  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nice royal Kashie- £70 isn't bad for a Royal anyway so you can't lose.



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kashie
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
567 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2009 :  17:29:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kazz he is pretty for a boy!!



01.01.00 Whippets - Dylan and Tigger
01.01.00 AfricanGreys - Jasper and Ruby
00.00.15 KoiCarp
01.01.00 RoyalPython -Ebanks Blake and Gladysss
01.00.00 MojaveRoyal - Kelso
01.00.00 AlbinoRoyal - Ziggy
00.01.00 PastelRoyal - Phyllisss
00.01.00 SpiderRoyal - Wincey
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