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wolfspirit
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  20:37:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know or have experienced a stroke with a Gerbil?


Think our little guy Dodge has had a stroke, but cant be sure, will take him to vets in the morning, but just wanted to know if anyone has had a gerbil that has had a stroke can tell me what it is like.

Thanks



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337smile
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  20:50:39  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Never had one with a gerbil, but plenty with rats. Common signs are: head tilted to one side, loss of balance, loss of use of back legs, animal keeps falling over.
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  20:53:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 337smile

Never had one with a gerbil, but plenty with rats. Common signs are: head tilted to one side, loss of balance, loss of use of back legs, animal keeps falling over.



that sounds right, did your rat recover? he is twitching and keeps going to one side...

I have put him back in with his brother and made him a bed, gave him some water of a syringe....

I have been trying to find out how to put him to sleep cos i cant get vets till the morning..

Putting him in with one of the royals is NOT an option as he has also i think got a tumour so i dont want my royal getting anything...

but i dont think i could do that anyway, he is my fave gerbil...



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Edited by - wolfspirit on 19/07/2009 20:55:05
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337smile
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  20:59:26  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I used to have about 100 rats and none of them recovered. In fairness though, I didn't give most of them a chance too, took first to vets who put it to sleep and then since then I always "put them to sleep" and fed to my boa. I appreciate this isnot an option for you and rightly so. My rats were not really pets as such so it was different.
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337smile
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:01:02  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Just read that post back to myself and it sounded like all 100 had strokes

To clarify, I've cared for 100's of rats and those with strokes didn't recover. Sorry about your little guy.
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:01:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 337smile

I used to have about 100 rats and none of them recovered. In fairness though, I didn't give most of them a chance too, took first to vets who put it to sleep and then since then I always "put them to sleep" and fed to my boa. I appreciate this is not an option for you and rightly so. My rats were not really pets as such so it was different.



the plan is vets tomorrow, but i dont want him to suffer, guess it would have been easier had i got a CO2 chamber set up, but i dont yet...

if he never had a tumour then i would be considering the royal route...



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:02:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
before anyone jumps on me for thinking of feeding my dying gerbil to one of my royals, the only reason i would do it is to end his life...as he IS dying...



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lee2308
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:03:11  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
sorry to hear that anne,

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karl
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:04:27  Show Profile  Visit karl's Homepage  Reply with Quote
you got a sharp knife? A butchers style chop to the back of the neck is quick and painless, just a touch gory

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:04:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lee2308

sorry to hear that anne,



me to, i am upset, he took a lot of work and time to trust me and has always been the shy one out of the two..

i just dont want him to suffer..



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337smile
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:05:54  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Can't say Wolfspirit if he'll be suffering or not. Obviously if he can't eat or drink then he will suffer long term but I think he won't suffer much overnight. I'd offer to help but you are miles away.

Lee
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:09:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 337smile

Can't say Wolfspirit if he'll be suffering or not. Obviously if he can't eat or drink then he will suffer long term but I think he won't suffer much overnight. I'd offer to help but you are miles away.

Lee



he took water on his toungue, but did not want anything to eat, could he recover?

can snakes get the tumours?



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Edited by - wolfspirit on 19/07/2009 21:09:48
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337smile
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:13:28  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit

quote:
Originally posted by 337smile

Can't say Wolfspirit if he'll be suffering or not. Obviously if he can't eat or drink then he will suffer long term but I think he won't suffer much overnight. I'd offer to help but you are miles away.

Lee



he took water on his toungue, but did not want anything to eat, could he recover?

can snakes get the tumours?



Honestly don't know about the tumour, but even if someone told me no, stillwouldn't risk it.

In theory I suppose he could recover but like strokes in humans its a bit of a lottery. I tink he would struggle to eat and drink.
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337smile
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:16:26  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by karl

you got a sharp knife? A butchers style chop to the back of the neck is quick and painless, just a touch gory



Yoiu could avoid the gore by using a blunt knife. Any sharp (as in fast and hard) blow to the back of the neck would do it. I know it sounds bad but I used to use the side of a table and hold tightly onto their tails. Very quick, painless and 100% success.
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  21:17:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 337smile

quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit

quote:
Originally posted by 337smile

Can't say Wolfspirit if he'll be suffering or not. Obviously if he can't eat or drink then he will suffer long term but I think he won't suffer much overnight. I'd offer to help but you are miles away.

Lee



he took water on his toungue, but did not want anything to eat, could he recover?

can snakes get the tumours?



Honestly don't know about the tumour, but even if someone told me no, stillwouldn't risk it.

In theory I suppose he could recover but like strokes in humans its a bit of a lottery. I tink he would struggle to eat and drink.



ok, vets in the morning then...if he did not have the tumour i would have got one of my royals to do it...

cruel as it sounds it would have been very quick...



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kashie
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  22:19:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mix a paracetamol with the water and shringe feed him the lot - sounds harsh, but he will probably go to sleep first. Or a sleeping pill - if you have one handy???

You are really not having much luck with your pet lately are you?

I'm so sorry and hope that all resolves itself real soon....for your own sanity if not anything else....pets are such a worry - I dont know why we put ourselves through it.



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  23:39:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kashie..

he has gone now;-)




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kashie
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Posted - 19/07/2009 :  23:58:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sooo sorry - poor thing at least he's not suffering now. Chin up hun!



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 20/07/2009 :  00:11:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kashie

Sooo sorry - poor thing at least he's not suffering now. Chin up hun!



am gutted...but he is free now..



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MissCat
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Posted - 20/07/2009 :  08:28:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
:( *hugs*
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wolfspirit
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Posted - 20/07/2009 :  12:36:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks Kat and everyone, we will have his little funeral tomorrow..



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