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robrs
Snake Mite

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Posted - 31/07/2009 :  17:29:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi guys, new here, hatched my first babies (3) about a month ago, 1was dead in shell other 2 seem fine but 1 hasnt shed yet??????? also will they heck as like feed, tried all techniques to my knowledge e.g scenting, braining to no avail so any info much appreciated.

thanx. rob

wolfspirit
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/07/2009 :  17:51:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by robrs

hi guys, new here, hatched my first babies (3) about a month ago, 1was dead in shell other 2 seem fine but 1 hasnt shed yet??????? also will they heck as like feed, tried all techniques to my knowledge e.g scenting, braining to no avail so any info much appreciated.

thanx. rob



hi Rob

Have you tried live rat pups for the first couple of feeds and then fresh kill then f/t

welcome to the forum by the way;-)



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karl
Fully Grown Royal

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Posted - 31/07/2009 :  17:58:50  Show Profile  Visit karl's Homepage  Reply with Quote
assist them with a few and see if they learn what food is. IF one of my hatchlings doesn't take next week I will do a video showing how I assist feed mine (or Wolfspirit will tell me off if I forget)

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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/07/2009 :  18:37:11  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Them not eating isn't unusual, could try as Anne and Karl have suggested. The fact that one hasn't shed is very strange though?



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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/07/2009 :  18:59:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

Them not eating isn't unusual, could try as Anne and Karl have suggested. The fact that one hasn't shed is very strange though?



thats what i alwaws thought BE,

but i have learnt on my travels that some baby royals dont shed till they have had there first feed.

so it might be ok.



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kashie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/07/2009 :  19:02:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karl - I would be interested in seeing assist feeding video - please!!



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robrs
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/07/2009 :  22:01:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanx for the replys guys

tried assist feeding but not really sure how to do it properly and gave up after not long, not sure about how long or hard to be pushing the food and i would try live but dont know where to get baby mice/rats from.

thanx. rob
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wolfspirit
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/07/2009 :  23:05:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by robrs

thanx for the replys guys

tried assist feeding but not really sure how to do it properly and gave up after not long, not sure about how long or hard to be pushing the food and i would try live but dont know where to get baby mice/rats from.

thanx. rob



Hi Rob, i spoke to someone a little while ago about your babies,
and what i got back was this..

Try them on live for three to four feeds, preferably multis if they can be obtained, once you have the gut recognizing (food which normally takes this many feeds, sometimes less sometimes more)..you can then start to switch to fresh killed and then defrost...i am told it is much easier switching when they are very young than when they are older.

where in the UK are you based?



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karl
Fully Grown Royal

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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  10:23:02  Show Profile  Visit karl's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The best thing I was ever showed in a rep shop was how to assist. I genuinely thank that shop, made my life so much easier with some of the more challenging non feeders I have taken in.
Thing is, when I finally try to do a video I hope it shows the degree of patience and the gentle pressure/force you use. This really is something I think people should be shown in rep shops when they buy royals.

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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  10:39:53  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Where in the country are you Rob?



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wolfspirit
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  15:38:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by karl

The best thing I was ever showed in a rep shop was how to assist. I genuinely thank that shop, made my life so much easier with some of the more challenging non feeders I have taken in.
Thing is, when I finally try to do a video I hope it shows the degree of patience and the gentle pressure/force you use. This really is something I think people should be shown in rep shops when they buy royals.



i totally agree Karl, but not all rep shops are as good as the one you spoke about, so your video is going to be priceless,

i need to learn to do this to.



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robrs
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  21:42:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
im in sheffield mate
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  22:07:28  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Dazb lives in Sheffield, he may be able to help or I am not too far away and have had to assist a couple of animals if not.



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Blackecho
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  22:10:40  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Or pop along to Snakes N Adders and speak to Chaz or Paul there, sure they'd help out.



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robrs
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  18:05:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
been to snakes n adders mate, bought a gtp in march from them, and they just gave me advice i already have, gonna try assist tonight so fingers crossed xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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karl
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  22:06:18  Show Profile  Visit karl's Homepage  Reply with Quote
best of luck

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robrs
Snake Mite

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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  22:25:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cant believe it, theyve fed! the 1 that hasnt shed was a proper bugger and had to really push it down a bit but eventually ate on its own and the other started eating near enough as soon as item touched the back of its throat.

thank you guys for all your input and support
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karl
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  16:57:35  Show Profile  Visit karl's Homepage  Reply with Quote
congrats, bet you feel relieved

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robrs
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  21:20:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bit of an acheivement for me and yes im releived, and another experience.
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/08/2009 :  08:46:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well done and everything crossed they will continue for you..



"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from
now and make a brand new ending."
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