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paul01609
Snake Mite

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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  17:57:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
been to day and collected my plastic viv and all stuff needed,the heat mat is inside the viv but the mat is alittle to big for the viv creating a void for the snake to go down is this safe or should i just place the heat mat on the out side of the viv?

matty18714
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  17:59:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Put the heat mat on the out side, underneath. Have you got a thermostat? and how are you measuring the temperature?

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paul01609
Snake Mite

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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  18:04:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi m8 yes its on a stat and im using a digi gauge for the heat many thx
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shep6413
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  18:42:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if its a wooden viv, then put it inside the viv, but cover top of it so snake isnt laying directly on the heat mat,

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Remmy
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  18:45:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Put the mat under the viv. If the snake gets in the void it could burn itself.

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matty18714
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  18:46:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shep6413

if its a wooden viv, then put it inside the viv, but cover top of it so snake isnt laying directly on the heat mat,




quote:
Originally posted by paul01609

my plastic viv

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paul01609
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  19:10:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok have it setup on the out side but having heat problems,the temp of the floor surface is around 26.9c but the stat is not clicking offbut i could do with a little bit more heat any help please?
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337smile
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  19:14:29  Show Profile  Click to see 337smile's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
How long have you leftt to measure? what and how much substrate are you using? Are both probes directly on the surface, check they are not hovering above the substrate. I've found there is a considerable difference. Try a piece of polysterene under the heat mat too.

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shep6413
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  19:55:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ha ha, cheers matty, didnt notice that bit

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paul01609
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  20:27:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
many thx guys they flooring is orchard bark i do have at hand beech chips if you thin this is better?the temp and stat probes are direct on the top of the bark at the moment my temp is around 79.5F humidity is 60%
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lee2308
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  21:47:24  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i would put a piece of cardboard wraped in foil under the mat to raise it up close to the bottom of the fuanarium

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paul01609
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  21:51:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
got temp up to 82f now
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Blackecho
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  00:27:35  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
What is the temperature on the viv under the bark? - It may be just that the heat isn't getting through the bark.



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spor
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  02:10:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just noticed you said that the heat mat was to big for the viv in your first post. Now that you have it under your viv how much surface are does it cover? It should only be 1/3 to 1/2 of the viv floor area. as BE and others said heat might be having difficulty getting through the bark.


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boze
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  09:40:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If its just for a wee one then I wouldnt use bark as a substrate. Keep it simple just now with some kitchen roll. The heat can easily get through it, its easier to see when shes gone to the toilet, its a lot softer for her while shes young and it prevents getting any bark in her mouth when shes eating.

And as spor pointed out, make sure the heat mat doesnt cover the whole base of the RUB, just up to 1/2 of it.

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paul01609
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  19:20:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi every one and thx for the help i have a temp of around 82f the heat mate covers around 50% of the floor.sorry what i ment was the mat is 4" wider than the tank
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spor
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  21:40:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats good to hear on the 50%. 82 is still a bit low i would say. What temp is your cool end? as above you could probably lose the bark for now and just go with the kitchen roll. easier to clean etc aswell.. what wattage is your heat mat? and what temp have you set on your stat?


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paul01609
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  22:02:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
got the temp up to 85.3f humid is at 61% will check up on the heat mat info
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paul01609
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  22:03:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sorry forgot to say cool end is around 75f
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Remmy
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  22:13:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your warm end should really be around 90f

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spor
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  22:52:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it that the temp now with out bark? if you can get your warm end up closer to 90 and your cool end up to 80 then you'll be flying. What is you stat dial set to? do not rely on the accuracy of it. If you can raise it a bit then do. But remember that it takes time for the temps to establish them selves properly so keep and eye on temps


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Edited by - spor on 03/08/2009 22:54:18
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