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John_Boy
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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  14:49:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ive got a cf09 and wondered how i could go about switching him on to frozen. he currently takes a live rat pup every 5-7 days, he strikes straight away and eats every time. ive tried feeding frozen a few times but he just moves away from it, just not interested at all. the person i bought him from said he had taken frozen rats before but for me he just doesnt seem interested.
i would appreciate any help with this and hearing if anyone else has had similar problems.

wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!

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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  14:54:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John_Boy

ive got a cf09 and wondered how i could go about switching him on to frozen. he currently takes a live rat pup every 5-7 days, he strikes straight away and eats every time. ive tried feeding frozen a few times but he just moves away from it, just not interested at all. the person i bought him from said he had taken frozen rats before but for me he just doesnt seem interested.
i would appreciate any help with this and hearing if anyone else has had similar problems.



thats going to be difficult if you dont have a supply of live to help

i was told to stun the first few feeds so it is still alive but not moving like, maybe do this for a few feeds, then go to fresh kill, then onto defrost..

other than that, you could try really warm, and mimick the movement of a live one...

how many live feeds has it taken?



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Blackecho
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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  15:49:58  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Anne, he's giving it a live pup every 5-7 days, so he must have a supply of some sort?

John, have you tried fresh killed as an intermediate? It'll still be nice and warm and smell right so may work.

Give it a knock on the head or gas it.



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James House
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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  16:24:08  Show Profile  Click to see James House's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I read that if you defrost it in the same room they can smell it and then get ready to feed and then put the rat under hot water until it is warm to touch mimics the rat's warmth and smell when it was alive.
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Blackecho
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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  16:59:14  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
If you put it in water you may wash some of the scent off, I use a hair drier.



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  17:42:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James House

I read that if you defrost it in the same room they can smell it and then get ready to feed and then put the rat under hot water until it is warm to touch mimics the rat's warmth and smell when it was alive.



it might work, but i tried that with my live feeder...and it never worked



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  17:43:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Blackecho

Anne, he's giving it a live pup every 5-7 days, so he must have a supply of some sort?

John, have you tried fresh killed as an intermediate? It'll still be nice and warm and smell right so may work.

Give it a knock on the head or gas it.



so sorry i made a mistake, i am not perfect...and i know what i meant..

bye



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John_Boy
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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  18:44:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quite luckily ive got a good supply of live ones, got two good rep shops near me, jungle phase and cold blooded in essex. ive tried getting them hot on a heat mat and with a hair dryer but he just moves away from them with no interest. since ive had him hes taken 7 feeds, striking straight away each time. i will try fresh kill but whats the best way to do it? plus my girlfriend is squeemish about things like that and keeps falling in love with the pups and wanting to keep them so im going to have to find something that works soon lol
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Blackecho
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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  19:48:12  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
You are lucky, they are good shops.

Do it when she's not there then

Hold it by its back legs and swing head onto a hard surface, or build a CO2 gas chamber.



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Blackecho
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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  19:50:41  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit

quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

Anne, he's giving it a live pup every 5-7 days, so he must have a supply of some sort?

John, have you tried fresh killed as an intermediate? It'll still be nice and warm and smell right so may work.

Give it a knock on the head or gas it.



so sorry i made a mistake, i am not perfect...and i know what i meant..

bye



Didn't mean anything by it Anne, just might change the advice you give.



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John_Boy
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Posted - 09/08/2009 :  19:51:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks i will try that when i feed him next on tuesday
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boze
Yearling

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Posted - 09/08/2009 :  20:15:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I defrost the pup in a small freezer bag so any "juices" and scents on its surface dont dry up. I leave it for a few hours then pop it, and the bag its in, into some warm water 10 minutes before feeding. Yummy...

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