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wolfspirit
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  17:00:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got Oscar out today to check him over and discovered lots of blood under his scales down his belly...

i have no idea how this has happened as there is nothing in his viv that would cut him like this...

i have only got two ideas...

either he is allergic to newspaper or it is where he keeps curling round the bulb guard trying to find a way out of his viv...but would that make him bleed under his scales?

i have bathed him in a solution of F10 and also added tamodine to the areas where there is blood...

there are no mites anywhere near him and the only other thing is he is going into shed...but i have never seen this before when he has done so..and i am worried..

sorry for so many photos...wanted to get all of it..

has anyone else seen this? or got any ideas?














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matty18714
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  17:11:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldnt worry about it too much at the moment. Its normal for royals bellys to go pink at the start of the shed cycle. How hot is the bulb guard?

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  17:25:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matty18714

I wouldnt worry about it too much at the moment. Its normal for royals bellys to go pink at the start of the shed cycle. How hot is the bulb guard?



Hi Matty, i am not worried about his belly, it is the blood under the scales that is bothering me...

the guard is quite hot in places, mainly the edges as i checked that as well...

could it be the newspaper causing it?



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kashie
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  18:16:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry Anne, no idea what this might be - but I want to wish you well in sorting it out as you have always been so supportive of my snake issues on here.
Try not to worry too much (I know it's hard) and hope someone can give you some useful information to help you understand what it is.



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wolfspirit
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  18:30:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the only thing i know about bellies is scale rot, but it cant be cos he is kept clean...

so i am stumped..

Hoping Ali will pick this up



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matty18714
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  18:40:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I doubt that the newspaper is the problem. How far along his body is it?

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  18:43:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
from the vent to i would say half way up his body...



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Remmy
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  18:44:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dont know a lot about snake illnesses Anne but it could be the snake guard if he is squeezing tight around it maybe it is digging in him.

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  19:47:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Remmy

I dont know a lot about snake illnesses Anne but it could be the snake guard if he is squeezing tight around it maybe it is digging in him.



its one of Daves guards and is smooth...i checked it earlier to see if anything on it could do it, but it cant get under his scales..



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spor
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  22:59:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Anne sorry not a lot of help here from me either . the only other thing i can think off that could possibly cause this would be feeding over sized prey, as it can cause some blood vessels to rupture . I'm sure thats no help at all on less you have just moved up a size in you feeding.? hope he is ok.


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wolfspirit
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Posted - 01/10/2009 :  23:17:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spor

Hi Anne sorry not a lot of help here from me either . the only other thing i can think off that could possibly cause this would be feeding over sized prey, as it can cause some blood vessels to rupture . I'm sure thats no help at all on less you have just moved up a size in you feeding.? hope he is ok.



no he has been feeding on large mice and mice sized rat weaners..lol

the general consensus is that he should shed it out and as he is going into shed i will wait and see, just keep an eye on him for now..

obviously if it worsens or anything else happens i will trot him off to the vets...but i have combed his viv trying to find something that would cause it and there is nothing in there that is sharp..so it is a mystery really..

thanks for your help anyway, i appreciate it

there are no signs that i can see of anything else, so maybe it is just to do with him not having shed for a long time or something...

he has to much of an eye on the girls thats his problem..lol..



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karl
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Posted - 02/10/2009 :  10:36:01  Show Profile  Visit karl's Homepage  Reply with Quote
tbh I would wait until after his shed and then take a look.

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wolfspirit
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Posted - 02/10/2009 :  21:11:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
which i hope will be soon, seems like he has been dark for ages..lol..



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hiper2009
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Posted - 11/10/2009 :  22:25:53  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit

which i hope will be soon, seems like he has been dark for ages..lol..



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Posted - 11/10/2009 :  23:45:38  Show Profile  Visit Dazzetski's Homepage  Click to see Dazzetski's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wolfspirit

which i hope will be soon, seems like he has been dark for ages..lol..



How long's ages?


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wolfspirit
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Posted - 11/10/2009 :  23:51:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He is fine now thanks for asking,

shed thursday night and no signs of any blood anywhere..lol

so i reckon it was shed and maybe as he had not shed in a couple of months to..

checked his weight and he clocked in at 900g so not doing to bad considering his feeding has been in and out..


Daryl ages was three to four weeks..it was like he was going into shed but not doing it..



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spor
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Posted - 12/10/2009 :  01:12:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
glad to hear he is all good anne. Gaia in pre shed stage now. I have been waiting for this for a couple of weeks two. skin had gradually got duller and duller. only today did eyes go cloudy.


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