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couch
Hatchling
66 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2009 : 18:47:35
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how many can you put in a viv to live together ? all male all female or a mix at a risk off spring ? |
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2009 : 19:11:11
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1. Any more and you place the snakes in unnecessary danger. |
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matty198111
Yearling
United Kingdom
174 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2009 : 19:29:18
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i have 2 males together
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2009 : 19:39:03
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I agree with the first Matty |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2009 : 20:26:38
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i wouldn't co-habit my boas or royal but i do have 1.1, 2.0 and 0.2 pairs of corns together |
Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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karl
Fully Grown Royal
1069 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2009 : 20:54:06
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It is frowned upon, but it is very easy to do and does work in alot of cases. There are dangers, such as cross infection, chance of bullying etc, but in the CORRECT sized enclosures, with enough hides etc it can and does work.
Personally, I wouldn't, just ain't worth the risk to me, but it's personal taste. |
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Dazzetski
Yearling
United Kingdom
461 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2009 : 23:28:37
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Syd & sofia are on there own in their viv's, but I've got Tango & Sparkle, Hogan & Shaggy in together with no problems whatsoever, it's your call. Yes there's a risk, but as long as you quarentine them for long enough & feed them seperately, I'm ok with it. |
0.2.0 Cats (Spud & Phoebe) RIP Stevie fat man 1.1.0 Royals (Syd & Sofia) 2.2.3 Corns (Hogan, Shaggy, Sparkle, Tango, Fred, Haribo & Go Faster) 0.0.1 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Escobar) 1.1.0 Variable King Snakes (Lancelot & Guinaverre) 0.0.20 Fish |
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spor
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 01:58:30
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for me i wouldn't take the rest of letting them live together. Wouldn't want to take the risk of losing a snake to safe on space. but as others have said it works for them. personal choice and if you are happy with the risks taken. |
0.4.0 Royal Python 1.0.0 Pastel Royal 0.1.0 Spider Royal 1.1.0 Carolina Corn Snake 1.0.0 Normal Stripe Corn 1.0.0 Yellow Bellied Turtle
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2847 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 06:57:43
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Just a couple of points to note...
If you do decided to co-habit them, make sure they are the same size, make sure of there sex's (especially if they are young) as you dont want any breeding when they are to young. Also bear in mind you will probably need a spare complete set up to hand so if any problems do occur, through illness, bullying or one becoming gravid. |
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 07:06:27
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i wouldnt either, for me it is not worth the risk...
Daryl...you might well be ok, but there is always the .....what if?
not worth it .... |
"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." -- Source Unknown
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chris100575
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
743 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 08:57:11
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This could really do with being a sticky it comes up that often.
I think this has already been answered, but to add my view it's not worth it. They don't live together in the wild, and apart from the chance of one ending up as lunch when you find a poo in the morning how do you know whose it is? Same if one was to regurge. There was a recent thread on TCS where someone co-habited two corns and only had one in the morning, and I've also come across photos of a boa that was being co-habited with a royal, that ate its housemate. If anything the royal was slightly bigger than the boa but it still came second. The boa then regurged it a couple of days later, thus its health was at risk too. It's probably rare, but the possibility is enough to put me off.
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0.1.0 Royal Python - Princess 0.1.0 BCI - Feather |
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Gingerpony
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2663 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 12:03:26
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quote: Originally posted by chris100575
There was a recent thread on TCS where someone co-habited two corns and only had one in the morning, and I've also come across photos of a boa that was being co-habited with a royal, that ate its housemate..........It's probably rare, but the possibility is enough to put me off.
TBH it's not that rare, i know numerous people who have ended up with just one snake.......... and we're not just talking little ones either....... |
Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Day Geckos
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wolfspirit
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
5741 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 12:47:51
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exactly Ali...
the only time they should be together is to breed from or for photos and thats it...
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"No one can go back and make a brand new start. Anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." -- Source Unknown
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matty198111
Yearling
United Kingdom
174 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 16:09:37
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all the above is correct
there are risks (as there is with everything in life), you can limit these risks with some serious revision and studying of the snake.
i know of a snake that wouldnt eat until it was kept with another of its kind, it was suggested that it was due to the different viv but tbh i dont tink it was as they were kept in the same conditions.
to be fair do some reading up about it make sure your very confident you can tell the 2 apart, and then decide wether or not its worth it.
also i do believe that we should have a sticky on this subject as it does seem to come up very often. i think it needs just the 2 posts, 1 for and 1 against, other wise i think it will just get over crowded with people saying the same thing. im happy to right the 1 for and someone else to right the 1 against
just an idea
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 16:45:29
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quote: Originally posted by matty198111
also i do believe that we should have a sticky on this subject as it does seem to come up very often. i think it needs just the 2 posts, 1 for and 1 against, other wise i think it will just get over crowded with people saying the same thing. im happy to right the 1 for and someone else to right the 1 against
just an idea
mat
Hmm...maybe I will write something up later then. |
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couch
Hatchling
66 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 16:47:58
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no plans to put 2 together but cheeres for the info everyone |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 18:32:22
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If you do write for and against arguments, please try to leave emotion out of it and just state facts. Its a very sensitive subject and we don't want to upset anyone.
Thanks. |
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matty198111
Yearling
United Kingdom
174 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 18:37:34
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quote: Originally posted by Blackecho
If you do write for and against arguments, please try to leave emotion out of it and just state facts. Its a very sensitive subject and we don't want to upset anyone.
Thanks.
tbh honest with you this is why i suggested just having the 2 posts so as it dont turn into an argument rather than useful information.
we dont have to do it, its just a suggestion
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 18:48:21
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I have written something up that I hope will help. Matty, I will post it tonight. |
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matty198111
Yearling
United Kingdom
174 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 19:55:33
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prob a daft question but where will i find your post when its done
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matty18714
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2009 : 20:03:39
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Under general Keeping info. If I dont post it tonight I will definatly do it tomorrow afternoon. |
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