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trio
Snake Mite

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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  08:57:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
heat mats!
i'm getting seriously cheesed off with these things. especially when i hear people saying they can get to over 100 degrees. this is the second heat mat i've had and i'm lucky if i can get 90 out of it. yet i've got another that is fine and dandy.
i've got a square glass viv, (well 2 actually) ones got my royal in it and the temps fine. just got myself a rainbow boa and i'm really struggling to get top end temps out of this other heat mat. is it just me???????

matty18714
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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  09:07:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How have you got it set up?

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trio
Snake Mite

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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  09:13:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
its underneath the glass viv covering just under half the bottom of the viv. copper strips are upper most ( got that wrong before) using kitchen roll as substrate as it's a baby - easy to clean etc. it is sat on top of a wooden viv, but so is the other one which is fine. i had thought of putting foil underneath to reflect any heat back up but i'm sure i read somewhere this is a fire hazzard.
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matty18714
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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  09:30:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you got a gap between the heat mat and the surface its resting on? Where is the stat probe?

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trio
Snake Mite

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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  09:42:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mat is sat flat on top of the wooden viv, the glass viv is on top of that, there is a small gap between the mat and glass viv due to the shape of the viv. probe is sat on inside of viv under kitchen roll directly on the glass, i.e. directly over the mat.
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matty18714
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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  10:01:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If your using a digital or a dial thermometer on a flat surface you wont get an accurate reading (you will get a lower one, which is why I prefer infra red temp guns).

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trio
Snake Mite

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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  10:09:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, i'm using both - call me paranoid !
i'll move them around a bit and see what happens.
thanks for the help, i'll let you know how i get on ;)
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Blackecho
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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  13:26:22  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Bung a bit of card under the mat to raise it up so that it's touching the glass. The air gap you have is acting as an insulator.



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Heffa
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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  13:38:59  Show Profile  Click to see Heffa's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hey trio, i had exactly the same problem. I had the stat probe under the kitchen roll, directly on top of the mat and couldnt reach temps either. I got all paranoid that thermostats and mats werent working. So i put the stat probe on top of the kitchen roll, with the thermometer probes next to them and now hit temps over and above 90. Silly as it sounds, but it worked. May be worth giving it a try :)

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trio
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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  18:04:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
did both of the above and hey presto! getting temps around 90 -92 which will do nicely thankyou. maybe i can relax a bit now. thanks for all your help:)
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Blackecho
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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  19:54:30  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
No probs, now you have to promise that when (in 6 months time) someone new asks this question, you answer it



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