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Bamboocha
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07/06/2010 : 19:00:08
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Hi everyone, I have a quick question about the placement of thermostat sensors and thermometers. I am using a Habistat thermostat and a digital thermometer but I am unsure where to place them in the viv. Is it best to monitor the hot end or the cool end? I know I could buy another thermometer so there is one at each end but I only the one at the minute.
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337smile
Yearling
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 19:22:44
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One at each end would be best. I have three RUBs with temps monitored at hot end and then a digital thermometer in the room which should tell me the temps in cold end as I am using heat mat.
If you only have 1 digi thermometer then definitely put it at hot end so your snake won't burn. I have my stat probe and thermometer tied together and blue tacked to the base of the RUB, above heatmat and under substrate (kitchen roll). |
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mischang
Yearling
United Kingdom
482 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 20:13:05
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| i would suggest putting the probe at hot end no matter wat as you certainly dont want to over heat them , wat i first did was put thermonitor at hot end for a bout 4 hrs min take note then move to middle and same then cool end and ajust as need be ! also dont forget adding a damp hidein cool side tends to cool temperture etc so you need to have an idea all over once ur all set which doesnt happen the day you set up shame but would help lol its easy to just pop ur head ina check when doind water etc rather than keep messing. hope that makes sense |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 20:30:08
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| Hot end on the substrate if you only have one. |
 
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MrsA82
Yearling
United Kingdom
437 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 22:37:50
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Just to bump this old thread rather than starting a new one
I have my rubs and have placed my thermometer probe on the aspen Getting 32c
And I'm getting an ambient air temp at 28c
is this ok asi was thinking the royal might get to hot if he goes below the aspen |
  
2.4.0 Royal python
0.0.2 Cornsnake
1.1.0 Extreme red Albino Hognose
2.2.1 Crested Gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 22:41:40
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How are you getting that air temp in a RUB, ambient will be room temp, is it that hot in your room?
If you place the thermometer monitoring the hot end as close to heat source as possible AKA on the bottom of the RUB and the ambient temp is monitored in the cool end on top of the substrate. |
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MrsA82
Yearling
United Kingdom
437 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 22:48:14
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I was just hanging the thermometer half way down the rub held ou by sticky tape for a little while to see what i was getting
Also if I put the thermometer on the bottom the aspen wouldn't be ashot ? Right
Help I need to sort this out :) |
2.4.0 Royal python
0.0.2 Cornsnake
1.1.0 Extreme red Albino Hognose
2.2.1 Crested Gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 22:52:02
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Ashot?
You place it at the bottom as they can and do burrow into aspen and you want your hot reading from he hottest place in the RUB, which will be the bottom, then you put only a very thin layer of aspen in that hot area (my Boa ALWAYS moves any substrate out of the way and sits on the bottom).
The ambient temp sounds high, not for the royal but for a RUB. |
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MrsA82
Yearling
United Kingdom
437 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 22:58:08
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Sorry ashot should be as hot bloody iPad correcting is so annoying and the keypad sometimes don't type what I wanna lol
Ok they were on the bottom but we moved them tonight :( will move them back tomoz
What would be the best way to stick them down we were using gaffer tape
Thanks for youe help :) |
2.4.0 Royal python
0.0.2 Cornsnake
1.1.0 Extreme red Albino Hognose
2.2.1 Crested Gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:04:01
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Gaffer tape won't stand up to heat and despite being advised, initially, to use it in-viv, now I only use it outside for fear it sticks to a snake. I've found it even gets tacky in a warm room, drat it.
Once you find the best place for your probe, with a rub you could make a small hole either side the probe flex and thread a cable tie through and secure it outside the viv? (Just off the top of my head - late night diy idea ...) |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:06:19
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I use hot glue, tape is not great when it comes to snakes if they get caught on it they will struggle and rip scales off to get free, or you'll get the job of taking the tape off a very unhappy snake with oil. Heat will heat the substrate its just not as quick to do it as it is a the bottom, but you dont want the heat at the bottom been really hot while it heats the substrate.
(I should have seen it was as hot, I'm tired, the brain is running at about 20%)
HAHA BATS another overlap. Good idea with the cable tie though, nice one. |
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MrsA82
Yearling
United Kingdom
437 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:10:08
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Thanks bats would placing the thermostat at the back on the bottom be ok as I can just pop a couple of holes in the rub and cable tie it up
I'm so worried about my temps in fear of ri I guess I worry to much about everything really lol
We have the probe right now about 3cm up from the bottom sitting on the aspen
hence why its probley getting to hot
Thank you both for heping me later at night
Ive just turned down the stat for tonight
I have 6 to do and its getting to late for that
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2.4.0 Royal python
0.0.2 Cornsnake
1.1.0 Extreme red Albino Hognose
2.2.1 Crested Gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:11:41
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Lol - thanks Bob - great minds think alike!
Also just occurred to me - aquarium sealant - brilliant stuff, only trouble is you have to keep it away from the snake for 48 hours due to fumes and the time it needs to cure - after that though, it's ace. |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:14:20
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I'd always have the stat probe on the mat itself for greater control.
Sealant is good but hot glue is better, it sets in seconds and is just plastic so totally safe. |
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:14:51
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Originally posted by MrsA82
Thanks bats would placing the thermostat at the back on the bottom be ok as I can just pop a couple of holes in the rub and cable tie it up
I'm so worried about my temps in fear of ri I guess I worry to much about everything really lol
We have the probe right now about 3cm up from the bottom sitting on the aspen
hence why its probley getting to hot
Thank you both for heping me later at night
Ive just turned down the stat for tonight
I have 6 to do and its getting to late for that
Our pleasure lol - know what you mean about worrying - I've been known to go round checking temps at 3 am.
Erm, where's my temp gun? Just off to prowl ... |
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MrsA82
Yearling
United Kingdom
437 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:15:12
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I did have some as I used it to stick my slate hides together but used it all up
I have loads of cable ties tho :)
Goos idea tho and I know what you mean about the smell |
2.4.0 Royal python
0.0.2 Cornsnake
1.1.0 Extreme red Albino Hognose
2.2.1 Crested Gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:17:13
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Originally posted by Lotabob
I'd always have the stat probe on the mat itself for greater control.
Sealant is good but hot glue is better, it sets in seconds and is just plastic so totally safe.
What brand is that then? Sounds good. |
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MrsA82
Yearling
United Kingdom
437 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:17:36
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Thanks bob now my brains going late at night I was ment to type thermometer at the back on the bottom of the rub
I don't have a glue gun :( |
2.4.0 Royal python
0.0.2 Cornsnake
1.1.0 Extreme red Albino Hognose
2.2.1 Crested Gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:29:56
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I love my glue gun, I think I paid £3 on ebay for it. Had to check out the glue itself, the way it works is plastic and wax mixed together, then its heated, melts the plastic and evaporates the wax so when it sets it sets clear, only tip is wait until it gets really hot so it evaporates most of the wax for a stronger more durable finish.
At this time of night I shut down most of the brain, it has a sleep while the basics part stays awake then when its awake through the day the backup bit sleeps. Get way to live been an insomniac. |
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MrsA82
Yearling
United Kingdom
437 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:34:39
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I might just have to invest in a heat gun then
Have you used it in rubs then or just vivs
And what about if you want to remove it
Where would you recomend glueing the thermometer probe
Sorry for all the questions :) |
2.4.0 Royal python
0.0.2 Cornsnake
1.1.0 Extreme red Albino Hognose
2.2.1 Crested Gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:39:49
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I have a diagram for just such a query.
I use my glue gun to stick everything down, the stat probe to the mat, the hot end thermometer probe, to the bottom of the RUB, the thermometer screens to the side of the RUB. I ran round the house like a crazy John Wayne glue gunning everything down. |
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