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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 30/01/2011 : 18:31:24
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| Homozygous Spider, like Woma is lethal, so they just die, either in the egg or during hatching. |
 
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Royalbob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/01/2011 : 18:46:03
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Originally posted by Blackecho
http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=187
Ah it was right under my nose all this time. |
1.0 Enchi butter
1.0 Enchi X Pastel
1.0 Fire het clown
1.0 Bumblebee
1.0 pinstripe
0.1 Enchi Fire
0.1 Pastel calico
0.1 Yellow belly Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon pastel poss het clown
0.1 Het clown
0.1 Yellow belly
0.1 Green Mojave
0.1 HC Albino
0.2 Normals
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python23
Yearling
United Kingdom
108 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2011 : 19:05:57
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Originally posted by Blackecho
Homozygous Spider, like Woma is lethal, so they just die, either in the egg or during hatching.
i wonder if anyone has opened up an egg thats died to see if anything was actually growing in it |
02 Corn (female)
03 Amel corn (male)
03 Amel corn (female)
03 Royal reduced pattern (male)
05 Royal normal (male)
09 Het Pied (male)
10 Royal normal (female)
10 Het Pied (Female)
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2011 : 19:07:40
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python23
Yearling
United Kingdom
108 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2011 : 19:27:46
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| would like to know why they die. maybe the head wobble in normal spiders has something to do with it |
02 Corn (female)
03 Amel corn (male)
03 Amel corn (female)
03 Royal reduced pattern (male)
05 Royal normal (male)
09 Het Pied (male)
10 Royal normal (female)
10 Het Pied (Female)
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CoN
Yearling
United Kingdom
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python23
Yearling
United Kingdom
108 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2011 : 19:59:14
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| very interesting, wouldnt mind a pinstripe myself, maybe after breeding pieds hopefully. If there is a super form of the spider, i would have thought it would have been produced by now. |
02 Corn (female)
03 Amel corn (male)
03 Amel corn (female)
03 Royal reduced pattern (male)
05 Royal normal (male)
09 Het Pied (male)
10 Royal normal (female)
10 Het Pied (Female)
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Royalbob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
1115 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2011 : 20:03:32
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Not sure your understanding python23.
The super spider has been produced and it is a lethal gene
They die in the egg or shortly after. |
1.0 Enchi butter
1.0 Enchi X Pastel
1.0 Fire het clown
1.0 Bumblebee
1.0 pinstripe
0.1 Enchi Fire
0.1 Pastel calico
0.1 Yellow belly Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon pastel poss het clown
0.1 Het clown
0.1 Yellow belly
0.1 Green Mojave
0.1 HC Albino
0.2 Normals
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python23
Yearling
United Kingdom
108 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2011 : 20:08:17
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Originally posted by Royalbob
Not sure your understanding python23.
The super spider has been produced and it is a lethal gene
They die in the egg or shortly after.
of course i understand, no super form has been made as the super form must die in the egg. what i was trying to say is if the super form wasnt a lethal gene then the super form would of been produced years ago. |
02 Corn (female)
03 Amel corn (male)
03 Amel corn (female)
03 Royal reduced pattern (male)
05 Royal normal (male)
09 Het Pied (male)
10 Royal normal (female)
10 Het Pied (Female)
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BlueDragon
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
876 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2011 : 11:29:42
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Wow, thanks for the vids and all the info too. Really quite stunning snakes in the vids. And the graph too, that made sense to me! (I'm dyslexic, so numbers, messurments, charts, graphs, instructions and stuff like that all make no sense to me at all)
So when people describe a Royal as being 'wobbly' or 'unstable' are they taking about this Woma gene then? And if all snakes with woma genes in them die, how come there where some in the 'NERD' vid? I can see why he didn't want to breed from them though, that's a shame they're like that. What causes it?
And, if Pasel and other flavours of Royal were originaly found in the wild was this a result of a fault or have they evolved these colours for a reason? I can't see the brighter coloured ones being much good at camaflauge (sp?) or sneaking up on they're prey.
...So, does anyone actually know just how many different colour/pattern variations there actually are? ; ) Kevin's vid showed quite a mind-blowing aray of beautiful snakes! And I got the impression that not even he would know!!! |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2011 : 12:24:21
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| Its only the Homozygous form of the Woma gene (Pearl) that is fatal. It appears that there is sufficient wrong with this gene (and Spider) that the snake can only cope with one copy, having both is fatal. |
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BlueDragon
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
876 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 09:17:49
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Ah, I see.
Ta : ) |
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Question about morphs...
