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ballgirl
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 29/01/2011 : 10:28:24
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... was successful! Eventually....
We took his water bowl out of the rub along with his warm hide to give him space. He was attentive and alert whereas when we first got him he was a recluse! We defrosted the mouse whilst we were out, heated it up in hot water (in a bag) and wiggled it in front of his nose - he struck almost immediately!
Great, we thought. Then we made a fatal mistake... I put his water bowl back in the rub whilst he was still constricting the mouse. I knew it was a mistake but my hubby wanted to get the lid back on and leave him to it. Unfortunately, putting the water bowl back in disturbed him and he stopped constricting. We put the lid back on and left him to it. Got up this morning and he'd buried the mouse under the paper that we're using as substrate!
So, having read someone else did this on here, I got the mouse out, heated it back up and whilst I was doing that he stuck his head out of his hot hide. This time I left the hide and bowl in there and just lifted the lid a bit and stuck the mouse through the gap and wiggled it again - he sniffed it for a bit and then struck again! I pulled the tongs out and put the lid back down and left him to it. About 15 mins later the mouse is gone :-) |
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Royalbob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
1115 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2011 : 12:05:17
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| congrats ballgirl. i wouldn't worry about taking anything out. mine have constricted in their water bowl like their trying to drown the rat a few times. doesn't bother them. If the mouse had been in there all night i'd be inclined to throw it away and defrost a fresh one. |
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ballgirl
Hatchling
United Kingdom
55 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2011 : 13:13:54
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Hopefully we won't have it being left in there again now I know how to do it right first time :-)
Moral of the story - don't do anything that might disturb them in any way whilst feeding! Sounds obvious, but still... |
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Posted - 29/01/2011 : 13:49:29
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Been there, done that. It's all part and parcel of getting to know your snake. Many, notably corns, and even some royals, wouldn't have given a damn; they'd have just coiled harder (MY mouse!) Others are more sensitive to disturbance - yes, it's a good rule not to disturb them while eating. Very glad he ate for you second time round. |
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reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/01/2011 : 14:10:17
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Like other have sed, no need to remove stuff, quite a few times mine have eaten in there water bowl, so the rat ends up soaking, and they get a good drink while eating lol
Just carefully re-using the mouse after it has been left in there all night, But hopefully at won't happen again as there will be no need to leave it in at night |
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sandi
Sub Adult
787 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2011 : 19:23:06
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Good he went for it again! I put Flo off once just by moving too close to her viv when she was constricting. The dogs also put her off once by rushing past, she normally either recovers or goes back later. the only time she didnt was when she started to fast.
Would suggest that in future if he hasnt eaten the food by morning you should discard it rather than trying again. Bacteria multiply very fast in these temperatures. |
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1.0.0 Boa Constrictor - Boris
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martinking6
Yearling
United Kingdom
118 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2011 : 17:00:02
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Hiya
How do you all get on with the substrate when feeding in the viv
I feed earl in his viv but remove his hides and water and place paper towel over the substrate to reduce the risk of him getting any taken down with the mouse especially the ones that are fed with wet food or am I just being over cautious ?
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Got a lovely royal python called earl, a brazilian rainbow boa called zeus, a red tail cross boa constrictor called dorris and an albino burmese python called angel as well :-)
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Posted - 31/01/2011 : 17:25:51
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Originally posted by martinking6
Hiya
How do you all get on with the substrate when feeding in the viv
I feed earl in his viv but remove his hides and water and place paper towel over the substrate to reduce the risk of him getting any taken down with the mouse especially the ones that are fed with wet food or am I just being over cautious ?
Martin
No, I don't think you are. I cover the substrate too. |
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ballgirl
Hatchling
United Kingdom
55 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2011 : 19:46:24
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I only have paper down at the moment as he's in a RUB.
Sorry can't be more help. |
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sandi
Sub Adult
787 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2011 : 21:58:41
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If i use fine orchid bark then i cover it with paper, at the mo i am using very coarse bark so the lumps are too big to stick to the rat.
I wouldnt remove hides or water when i feed flo as she seems to like the security of them being there. She will retreat with the rat into her hide if disturbed when feeding, without the hide there, i suspect she would drop the rat and panic. |
0.1.0 Royal Python - Florence
1.0.0 Boa Constrictor - Boris
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Snecklifter
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/02/2011 : 11:31:58
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| Our Royal likes to be handled before a feed. We take him out and put kitchen towel on the substrate to prevent ingestion. After handling we put him back in and feed immediately, it seems he has learnt to associate the kitchen towell with feeding and sits waiting for his food after we put him back in. He's never missed a feed, not once so he's hardly a problem snake, but he does seem to do pretty much the opposite of most of the advice recommended. |
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martinking6
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/02/2011 : 14:00:00
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Originally posted by Snecklifter
Our Royal likes to be handled before a feed. We take him out and put kitchen towel on the substrate to prevent ingestion. After handling we put him back in and feed immediately, it seems he has learnt to associate the kitchen towell with feeding and sits waiting for his food after we put him back in. He's never missed a feed, not once so he's hardly a problem snake, but he does seem to do pretty much the opposite of most of the advice recommended.
Thats exactly what I have done since acquiring earl
Martin |
Got a lovely royal python called earl, a brazilian rainbow boa called zeus, a red tail cross boa constrictor called dorris and an albino burmese python called angel as well :-)
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Royalbob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
1115 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 17:13:27
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| It's the handling after where you have to be careful. If it's a large meal they can regurgitate it. |
1.0 Enchi butter
1.0 Enchi X Pastel
1.0 Fire het clown
1.0 Bumblebee
1.0 pinstripe
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0.1 Pastel calico
0.1 Yellow belly Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon pastel poss het clown
0.1 Het clown
0.1 Yellow belly
0.1 Green Mojave
0.1 HC Albino
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Kiba's 2nd or maybe 3rd feeding attempt...
