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sandi
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Posted - 16/04/2011 : 20:31:13
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At last, I'm on easter hols so finally got round to building a new viv for Boris. Had a result on materials, got all the cutting done for free at B&Q, needed 2 sheets of 18mm MDF but the nice lady on the till only charged for 1. Obviously, being an honest sort, I rushed back to point out her error The glass doors are salvaged from old cupboards, 6mm plate glass with rounded edges. Shame its not toughened but plate is damn nearly as good. The runners and door handles and vent covers, not fitted yet, came from viv bits on ebay, cant remember exactly how much but were under a tenna! Sundry items...silicone, screws etc...about 5 quid. The varnish for the interior was left over from a job and so is the paint I'm going to use on the outside.
Total cost of building a 4.5ft x 2ft x 2.5ft viv.....£30.00
Here's the first pic after putting it together but not with any fittings added yet.
Will add more pics when i can. Next stage is to paint it and seal the inside, then the worrying bit...heating a viv this size! just hope the 150w ceramic is up to the task.
Add finally, here is the boy himself!...
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0.1.0 Royal Python - Florence 1.0.0 Boa Constrictor - Boris 1.1.0 Alaunts - Willow & Brochan |
Edited by - sandi on 16/04/2011 20:33:08 |
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Posted - 16/04/2011 : 20:39:51
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Oh very nice indeed! Smashing value too - congrats!
Just built my fifth viv this week - last one tomorrow - know how you feel ... trifle blistered and achey eh? |
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sandi
Sub Adult
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Posted - 16/04/2011 : 20:57:07
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Oh you aint kidding! The weight of mdf and all that shifting and humping about....flip...i earnt my wine tonight!
After a glass or 2...
Brochan my beautiful Alaunt felt the need to help too! |
0.1.0 Royal Python - Florence 1.0.0 Boa Constrictor - Boris 1.1.0 Alaunts - Willow & Brochan |
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GMac
Grumpy scots admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/04/2011 : 21:13:45
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possibly a bit too much wine, viv for boris not for sandi |
Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/04/2011 : 21:18:43
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haha! brilliant :D glad you're enjoying it |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/04/2011 : 22:34:09
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Thats so good. I really would love to make one myself, I'm planning a major build at the moment, but I plan lots of things that get half done. |
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STICKS
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/04/2011 : 09:18:37
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Hi there sandi a very nice job boris will be well happy in there well done and what value. |
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Posted - 17/04/2011 : 09:26:44
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LOL!
Awesome morph mate! |
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sandi
Sub Adult
787 Posts |
Posted - 17/04/2011 : 20:47:39
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Tee hee! just wish Brochan was as well behaved as my snakes!
GMac, tom thinks a viv for sandi maybe the best idea you have ever had! |
0.1.0 Royal Python - Florence 1.0.0 Boa Constrictor - Boris 1.1.0 Alaunts - Willow & Brochan |
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sandi
Sub Adult
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Posted - 17/04/2011 : 20:50:34
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Bats, how are your vivs coming along? I've not got any further today as we had a family do to attend. |
0.1.0 Royal Python - Florence 1.0.0 Boa Constrictor - Boris 1.1.0 Alaunts - Willow & Brochan |
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Posted - 17/04/2011 : 21:22:27
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Oooooh...well...
Building the last viv was a doddle ... got so used to it I could do it in my sleep I think!
But today was the day I had to drill holes for the light fittings (which, if trained in through the handy holes at the back, do not then fit in the guards when the bulbs are fitted, so must go in through viv roof grr!) and the stat probes, which i'm training in through the sides and clipping to inside front of vivs so as to be invisible.)
Then came the aquarium sealant, and the caulking gun (in my local DIY supermarket they claimed not to have heard of a caulking gun, although they did sell it ...) grr again, it kept exploding everwhere - sloppy job, my fault I expect but achieved at last with the aid of a zillion disposable gloves ... fumes were terrible, left bathroom fan on, windows open, kept snakes out of way ...
But vivs are up and running - screw eyes fitted to support climbing branches, plants and bulb guards, caulking will now have to cure for 48hrs ... next step is to fit decor and electricals (easier before stack building.)
Conditions are so cramped I'm having to use my bed as a workbench, much to the cats' disgust. Tonight I'll be crawling in there under a crunchy sawdust duvet lol!
Oh boy it's fun eh!
Good luck finishing Boris's viv off. |
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GMac
Grumpy scots admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/04/2011 : 21:30:24
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quote: Originally posted by sandi
Tee hee! just wish Brochan was as well behaved as my snakes!
GMac, tom thinks a viv for sandi maybe the best idea you have ever had!
may well be the only idea ive ever had |
Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes
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sandi
Sub Adult
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 08:42:45
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GMac, try not to have any more then eh!
Bats, Wow, sounds like you could go into business! Know what you mean by cramped, Boris's viv is huge but cant put it into position until i move some furniture but cant move that till i move Boris into new viv and get rid of old viv! Just had a cunning plan though, going to build a cupboard to go under new viv and use wicker baskets as drawers to keep all snake and dog things in. on the silicone front, there is a little metal flap behind the trigger, if you release it after pulling trigger it stops the flow. Could be why you got it everywhere....if not then just tell me to shut up!!! Oh and thanks, you just reminded me of the tip to use screw eyes on the bulb guard....must go and get some!
Today i have to drill the vent holes out and other holes for probes etc, silicone the joins, paint the outside (thinking of doing a wood grain effect) and fit the runners. Not sure if glue alone is strong enough so may try to pin it too. How are you fitting your runners bats? |
0.1.0 Royal Python - Florence 1.0.0 Boa Constrictor - Boris 1.1.0 Alaunts - Willow & Brochan |
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 09:55:34
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Oh, these are all flatpack vivs where eveything's cut to size and predrilled - once you understand the instruction leaflet (difficult in my case) and get into the routine, you're away.
The window runners are just those ordinary sort you see on every viv - it tells you to fit them after the front panels have been fixed, but I actually found it easier to fix them to the panels beforehand - just ease one end over the edge of the panel and then squeeze the rest on - as long as the first bit is on, the rest just crunches into place and clamps on. I'm sure you can buy that grey plastic runner stuff and cut it to size with a hacksaw - would be a breeze I think. It doesn't need glueing - in fact the instructions say it's designed to be removed for cleaning. I would never have had the nerve to make my own windows with runners, get the glass cut to fit etc, but it's proved far simpler than I feared. Haven't actually put the glass in yet - that can't happen until each viv goes in place.
The caulking gun ... that caulking gun hates me! But it was chiefly my inexperience - I hadn't got the nozzle of the sealant fixed properly, and then it got gunked up and backed up, and it's an unwieldy thing to use in small spaces. It stopped the flow okay when I released the trigger; it's just that I'm the world's messiest person with that kind of job lol.
However, the whole thing seems to be coming along reasonably well (cross fingers) considering this is my first attempt at snake diy and a more precise job than whacking together allotment fences and henhuts - hens don't mind if you leave a few gaps; I don't suppose snakes do either, but in their case they'll escape!
All the best with finishing Boris's viv.
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scubadude
Yearling
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 17:16:05
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Nice to see Boris has you trained, you get the 'small' viv, Boris get the muti-roomed one looking good Sandi, reminds me I have to get the finishing bits ordered for mine. |
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reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 17:16:51
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haha lol, well boris got the better end of it then it looks really big, i bet he will love it
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blackskull
Fully Grown Royal
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 17:46:44
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nice job. i don't know what temps you need for a boa but i first used a 150w ceramic in my 4x2x2 viv and it didn't get hot enough for my royal so i now use 250w |
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sandi
Sub Adult
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 20:11:27
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Lol, yeah, even the dogs get more space than me!
Starting to wish i made it lower but i designed the whole thing around the glass doors as i already had them, now i'm worried that i wont get enough heat in it. Blackscull, i need the same temps as a royal so i dont think the 150w is going to do it.
Eeek! Oh well, the lamp holder and cable have arrived so time will tell!
Bats, I got what i thought were normal runners but they dont snap on thats for sure...just glue on! epoxy should do it i hope!
Oh and one last moan....battery died on drill today, wont take a charge anymore so need to beg one off a mate....grrrr! |
0.1.0 Royal Python - Florence 1.0.0 Boa Constrictor - Boris 1.1.0 Alaunts - Willow & Brochan |
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 20:45:50
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Aww, ain't it always the way - remember when my electric screwdriver died on me in a March dusk, up at the allotment, half a mile from home and ... arrgh, frustration!!
Hey, this may be a silly question, but would two light fittings ensure the necessary temps (need two stats. it's true.)
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sandi
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Posted - 19/04/2011 : 08:20:22
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I was wondering that too but dont want 2 stats, so then wondered if i could rig one stat to 2 lamps? Then again, no point if i just get a bigger 250w lamp. Going to need a bigger guard for that i expect....nothing straightforward in life! |
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Posted - 19/04/2011 : 14:35:18
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Might need to make your own guard - I've found the 150w IRs don't fit into standard guards.
I thought of running two bulbs off one stat - easily done with a 2 way adaptor.
AH! I was thinking of the practice of running 2 mats, in separate vivs, with 1 mat stat.
I thought - well, with one stat, if a bulb blows, then if the probe is in that viv - the other bulb, unstatted, is going to go skyhigh.
BUT - if both bulbs and probe are in the SAME viv, then if one blows, surely the stat is going to up power on the remaining bulb to compensate.
So that one stat would be okay??
(It takes me a while but I get there ....in the end....) |
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