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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 25/04/2011 : 21:42:07
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I thought I was understanding morphs now but something has just struck me like an iron bar to the face...
I was under the impression that Co-doms result in supers when bred together, as my my mojave when bred to another mojave will give me a super mojave..
I was also under the impression that Dominant, unlike recessive and like co-dom is passed on with each clutch so you don't get hets you just get another morph (or chance of anyway) and I was also under the impression unlike co-doms dominants do not make Supers.
So when I searched for an Ivory and was told it was a co-dominant I was surprised on the basis that I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a super ivory.
So is the website wrong and it should be Dominant or am I wrong in assuming that all co-doms have supers? |
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reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2106 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2011 : 22:18:39
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| the website if wrong, an ivory is a super form of a yb, so is a dominant morph. sometimes yellowbellies are refered to as het ivories, but a het is something that does not have a marker, like a yb has the yellow sides, so makes it a co-dom morph, whereas a het pied does not really have any markers taht prove it is a het pied, so is classed as recessive |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2011 : 22:30:19
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| Danny to the rescue! Thank you Captain Genetics :D |
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reptilemadd
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
969 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2011 : 17:21:08
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| Scales and Tails have both male and female YB's in so if you want that Ivory (which is the super form of a yb as danny said) but don't want to pay Ivory prices:) get in there quick lol |
1.0.0 beardie "magic"
1.1.0 100% Het Clown "Cerberus" and "Artemis"
0.1.0 Poss Calico "Ariadne"
1.0.0 Lesser " Kronos"
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Royalbob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
1115 Posts |
Posted - 15/06/2011 : 16:01:26
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MMMM!
I was under the immpession that an Ivory was just homozygous for the co dominant gene of the yellowbelly. Dominant gened snakes have no visual difference in appearance whether they are heterozygous or homozygous. Such as the spider or pin. There is clearly a difference between a het Ivory (aka) yellowbelly and an ivory.
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1.0 Enchi butter
1.0 Enchi X Pastel
1.0 Fire het clown
1.0 Bumblebee
1.0 pinstripe
0.1 Enchi Fire
0.1 Pastel calico
0.1 Yellow belly Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon pastel poss het clown
0.1 Het clown
0.1 Yellow belly
0.1 Green Mojave
0.1 HC Albino
0.2 Normals
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2011 : 17:13:03
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quote:
Originally posted by reptiledanny
the website if wrong, an ivory is a super form of a yb, so is a dominant morph. sometimes yellowbellies are refered to as het ivories, but a het is something that does not have a marker, like a yb has the yellow sides, so makes it a co-dom morph, whereas a het pied does not really have any markers taht prove it is a het pied, so is classed as recessive
Close, you are right that Ivory is 'Super YB', although I personally prefer the term Homozygous. However, it is still a Co-Dominant gene, it does not change to Dominant.
Also, 'Het' is just short for Heterozygous which means different, i.e. the gene pair has different genes on it. Dependant on the gene type (recessive, co-dom or dom) it may be visible or not.
This Sticky may clarify: http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=187
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jhk2005
Yearling
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2011 : 17:44:39
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| If it helps, look for a site "worldofballpythons.com", it has a list of almost 900 morphs, what gene-type they are and even a wizard that will work out the odds per egg of a particular pair of royals together :) |
1.6.0 Normal Royals - Will, Grace, Lolly, Patty, Maddie, Mystique, Victoria
1.1.0 Pastel Royals - Becks, Sophie
0.1.0 Spider Royal - Charlotte
0.1.0 Mojave Royal - Mo
1.1.0 Yellowbelly Royals - Pinky, Perky
1.0.0 Pinstripe Royal - Pip
1.0.0 Bumblebee Royal - Buzz
1.0.0 Vanilla Royal - Vinnie
1.0.0 Lesser Royal - Leo
1.0.0 Cinnamon Royal - Sam
1.0.0 Burmese Python - Kane
0.1.0 Albino Burmese Python - Amber
1.0.0 Redfoot Tortoise - Chucky |
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Royalbob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
1115 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2011 : 17:47:39
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| cheers BE. I was questioning everything i had learnt for a sec. Still learning but at least i know somethings sinking in. |
1.0 Enchi butter
1.0 Enchi X Pastel
1.0 Fire het clown
1.0 Bumblebee
1.0 pinstripe
0.1 Enchi Fire
0.1 Pastel calico
0.1 Yellow belly Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon pastel poss het clown
0.1 Het clown
0.1 Yellow belly
0.1 Green Mojave
0.1 HC Albino
0.2 Normals
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2011 : 17:50:27
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| Jhk that was the website that confused me in the first place listing the ivory as a condom hehe it's a very useful website though |
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin
United Kingdom
11327 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2011 : 19:13:04
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A condom??
It is a homozygous Co-Dom though. |
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Royalbob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
1115 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2011 : 19:35:58
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1.0 Enchi butter
1.0 Enchi X Pastel
1.0 Fire het clown
1.0 Bumblebee
1.0 pinstripe
0.1 Enchi Fire
0.1 Pastel calico
0.1 Yellow belly Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon pastel poss het clown
0.1 Het clown
0.1 Yellow belly
0.1 Green Mojave
0.1 HC Albino
0.2 Normals
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
4803 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2011 : 19:44:59
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| Codom, sorry hahaha |
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