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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2011 :  22:35:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SurroundedByMadness

Sorry, I don't understand what your trying to say lol.


But it will make a difference, if the snake is free from mites then isolate it from the eggs and remove the risk of the eggs hatching and infecting the snake again. Leaving the snake there is asking for more problems.
i would strongly recommend moving everything to a different part of the house preferably to a different level as you have no idea of when the eggs will change into full blown mites, do this for 2 months and the job will be done properly,
I can only give advice on my own experience, My 1st Royal had mites when i bought her and my 1st attempt at mite removal in my opinion was half baked as i didnt take full precautions due to lack of understanding,and like you thought i was winning when i no longer saw them.
They can be moved by a breeze or up to 8-9 ft when they are active, you have no idea where eggs are in your snakes room.

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Edited by - hodgie on 07/07/2011 06:34:03
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SurroundedByMadness
Yearling

United Kingdom
111 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2011 :  07:33:58  Show Profile  Click to see SurroundedByMadness's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Oh I understand your point now. Thankyou or explaining. But if there's eggs on the snake then I'll end up having mites in the RUB and viv


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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2011 :  18:36:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doubt very much that there will be eggs on the snake but there may well be in the surrounding area were you keep your rub, but thats why you move them and carry on the treatment, hope that helps and good luck.

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scubadude
Yearling

United Kingdom
326 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2011 :  19:55:54  Show Profile  Click to see scubadude's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
one thing to be aware of with mites is adults can travel up to 55 feet in a day, so moving the infected snake elsewhere may just be spreading the problem, the below link on VPIs website makes for interesting reading. if using callingtons treat the rubs and the area around the rubs may be just as effective.
http://www.vpi.com/publications/the_life_history_of_snake_mites

1.0 Classic corn snake
2.3 Normal Royal
1.1 spider royal
1.0 Mojave Royal
1.0 Butter Royal
0.1 Pastel ph ghost Royal
1.0 Enchi Royal python
1.0 Pastel royal poss ???
1.1 Yellowbelly Royal
1.1 Cinnamon Royal
1.1 Fire Royal
1.1 100% het Clowns
1.1 Crawl cay boas
1.0 Hypo hog island boa
0.1 Hog island Boa
coming soon
0.1 Bumblebee

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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2011 :  18:47:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scubadude

one thing to be aware of with mites is adults can travel up to 55 feet in a day, [/url]



It doesn`t actually say that though, it says - Unfed females are observed to crawl up to a rate of 11 inches per minute. That's 55 feet per hour!
- this would also work out to be 400 metres in a day.

I think we do agree that they travel as has been proved but from my knowledge they go off looking for food which will generally be plants in the house.

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Posted - 08/07/2011 :  19:01:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You mean the little bloodsuckers will leave the snake and go off to have a munch on yer aspidistra?

What DON'T they eat? What about the cat? What about humans?

Mites sound pretty tenacious once you have them.

Another point - the OP has had Kaa and her other reptiles for some time now, as far as I can see, but the mites have suddenly appeared - how do they do that? I can imagine going to premises where mites are living and accidentally bringing them home, but other than that ...? Well, hell, I suppose it's possible to catch them in the supermarket or on the bus - horrible thought!


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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2011 :  21:03:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mites are airborn, this is how they can suddenly appear and we will probably all get them at some stage. All living things including us have their own parasites, ours come in the form of lice, and worms etc.
Prevention and acting quickly when things appear is the only thing we can do.

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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2011 :  22:00:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have heard this airborne thing before and I dont think its anything to be concerned about.

The eggs adhere to the surface they are laid on, the larval stage barely move, the protonymphs are the mobile part of the life cycle, they walk vast distances (for something so small), they dont jump or fly. The adult fed stage also go walkies too to lay their eggs. I'm not saying that they can't be airborne, a good gust can blow a duck off its feet (I've seen the video) but airborne is going a bit far in my opinion mainly because there is no substantial wind in a vivarium or a living room without foreign food intervention so if disturbed the eggs could be tossed forth into the air but I believe in gravity winning the battle before the eggs could travel any distance.

That aside though I do think the only real course of action in a collection is when a mite appears, is to treat the entire collection AND surrounding areas and stay away from other collections. Become a reptile recluse for the duration of the treatment. I also agree with its probably going to happen at one time ofr another to everyone, our love for reptiles will bring us into contact with an infested area or animal at some point and it doesn't take much to transfer a infestation.


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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2011 :  21:04:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

That aside though I do think the only real course of action in a collection is when a mite appears, is to treat the entire collection AND surrounding areas and stay away from other collections. Become a reptile recluse for the duration of the treatment. I also agree with its probably going to happen at one time ofr another to everyone, our love for reptiles will bring us into contact with an infested area or animal at some point and it doesn't take much to transfer a infestation.



Totally agree.
As for the airborn part i should have been more specific. I`ve seen a video from Markus Jayne Ball Pythons were they explained mite movement and the airborn part was outdoors but could easily become relevent if you have your windows open in your snakes room on hot days. There are plenty of owners who have been suddenly affected by mites and they had to get there one way or another.

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