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Kelfezond
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Posted - 12/07/2011 :  17:25:22  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm sure i've asked this before but I can't remember, is it okay to breed brother and sister snakes together? I recall being told that you can breed them upto 5 generations?

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jhk2005
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Posted - 12/07/2011 :  18:01:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm not sure tbh kelf, i've heard that it's only normally done to prove out new morphs (using a parent and one of the babies)? I know snakes genes work differently to ours, but I should think it runs the same risks of inbreeding depression if two siblings breed together. My guess is that two littermates together might cause noticeable problems a lot sooner than 5 generations but I may be wrong ; it would be useful to speak with a long-term breeder to see exactly what the effects are.

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Evolution Morphs
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Posted - 12/07/2011 :  18:15:13  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Breeders do it it's called

Line breeding

Holding back the pick of the bunch and breed it back to there mother/farther
To enhance there colours / trait

What effects it does I don't know


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reptiledanny
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Posted - 12/07/2011 :  19:32:44  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
alot of breeders do it, like for example trying to get the albino pied, breeding albino x pied, then keeping a male and females hatchling back and growing them on, and then breeding them.
you just have to be careful with certain morphs like cinny as they can get the duckbill and kinking


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Kelfezond
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Posted - 12/07/2011 :  19:53:09  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm not familiar with a duckbill?

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reptiledanny
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Posted - 12/07/2011 :  20:02:21  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
the super cinny has it, basically where the snout is deformed and looks like a ducks bill, type it in on google images, there are a few photos on there, where the snout almost looks like it has been pinched


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Posted - 12/07/2011 :  20:42:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try googling 'Mickey's Nightmare - birth defects' - this catalogues defects caused by dud temps as well as genetic problems.

Don't mean to be alarmist but I'm a bit disturbed about what isn't known, or maybe deliberately ignored, when it comes to breeding the 'perfect' animal - of whatever species. Kevin McCurley admits that he's made a lot of mistakes and good on him, but I've known many breeders (again of other animals, not just reps) sweep these problems under the carpet ...


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