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Pythonwizard
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Posted - 14/12/2011 :  17:52:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
May sound stupid but I was puzzled today when I thought of this Q

What is the morph name for normal ball python or isn't it just called a normal ball python

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Posted - 14/12/2011 :  18:04:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Normal or wild-type - or 'dinker' when an apparently normal to normal breeding produces an unusual hatchling - although since many normals nowadays can be het for morphs and since some morphs have originated from breeding from unusual wild caught royals and even 'normal' normals can differ greatly in colouration and patterning, there is, imo, no such thing as a normal normal!

Normals always have a trick or two up their sleeve ...


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Pythonwizard
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650 Posts

Posted - 14/12/2011 :  18:07:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What can you breed with a normal to get cool morph

(sorry for the question just don't understand the genetics to ball pythons )
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jameshouse92
Yearling

United Kingdom
116 Posts

Posted - 14/12/2011 :  18:11:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can breed any dominant/co-dominant morph to get a cool morph. Recessive gened morphs need a gene from each snake for it to be visual. There's loads of info on the net
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Pythonwizard
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650 Posts

Posted - 14/12/2011 :  18:13:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I bred a normal x het pied what would he the outcome
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jameshouse92
Yearling

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116 Posts

Posted - 14/12/2011 :  18:43:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mainly normals. Maybe 1 het if your lucky.
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GMac
Grumpy scots admin

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Posted - 14/12/2011 :  19:21:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
would all be normals 50% poss het pied


Royals, Corns, Boa, Kings, Hoggy, Ratsnakes

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jonoandapril
Yearling

United Kingdom
455 Posts

Posted - 15/12/2011 :  09:38:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
im going to be putting my bumblebee to my normal, apparently that will give bees, pins (i think?) and normals. not a bad pairing for first time i think.

1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python
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jameshouse92
Yearling

United Kingdom
116 Posts

Posted - 15/12/2011 :  13:14:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sadly you won't get any bees breeding with a normal. You'll just get pastels and spiders
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 15/12/2011 :  14:59:54  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That's not true I'm afraid James, Bumblebee x Normal will yield all 3 of the morphs, pastel, spider and bumblebee. With co-dom and dom genes it's like a big mixing pot as long as the genes are there it doesn't matter which parent they're in they'll still have a chance to pass to the offspring.

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Pythonwizard
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Posted - 15/12/2011 :  15:22:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you have to breed co dominant with dominant
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Pythonwizard
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Posted - 15/12/2011 :  15:22:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anybody know anyone who's got het albino and are trusted
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

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Posted - 15/12/2011 :  15:28:25  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
No you don't have to breed co-dom with dom, you can breed whatever you like to anything :)

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Jayde
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/12/2011 :  19:37:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Places like Crystal palace reptile, royalmorphsforsale.co.uk (which is the specific site for Emsworth reptiles own bred offspring) or any large reptile/exotics stores online. World of Ball pythons have a a list of reputable breeders in the UK (& USA, have to cipher through a little) or read through the reviews & recommendations people have left on the forum from specific breeders of shops they've used.
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jameshouse92
Yearling

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Posted - 17/12/2011 :  21:53:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kelfezond

That's not true I'm afraid James, Bumblebee x Normal will yield all 3 of the morphs, pastel, spider and bumblebee. With co-dom and dom genes it's like a big mixing pot as long as the genes are there it doesn't matter which parent they're in they'll still have a chance to pass to the offspring.



Yeah i found that out a couple hours before i posted. Just thought you would need another royal with one of the other genes. Really confused how it works with double gened snakes.
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