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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/03/2009 :  09:14:26  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I would not be brave enough to try sticky tape to remove eye-caps, especially if you're not 100% certain there are retained caps. This sounds like a recipe for trouble.



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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal

1971 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  09:24:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

I would not be brave enough to try sticky tape to remove eye-caps, especially if you're not 100% certain there are retained caps. This sounds like a recipe for trouble.


that is what i thought, dont worry i have absolutely NO intention of trying that! LOL
what im going to do about his eyes is this: leave it for a few days (week max?) if they haven't cleared in prep for his shed i will either: 1)contact Julia, see if maybe she can pay me a visit to double check his eyes, 2) contact the reptile chap in town and see if he can come over and double check it, or 3) find a royal python knowlagable vet as close a s possible to me who will be able to take a look.
let me know if this is a good or bad plan...
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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal

1971 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  09:34:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if i move him back to the beech viv, what would be the best way to heat it? i worried previously that if the heat mat was under the viv the heat wouldnt get through well enough, and obviously i was concerned that if the heat mat was in the viv, he might get burned (though a thermostat may help, it is still a concern of mine) so is bulb the way to go? if so, which kind? ceramic or something different?
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  09:38:33  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MissCat

find a royal python knowlagable vet as close a s possible to me who will be able to take a look.


OK. The old brain is a little overloaded with forensic type stuff at the moment but it was Bridgewater in Somerset that you live?

Found these vets on Yell.com:

http://www.yell.com/super/VETS/somerset?sem=y&cam=sem_vets


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wohic
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
8 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  09:39:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rebbecca Bailey who works out of chard and crewkerne is a reptile specialist, however as you are in bridgewater give the collage a ring they do keep exotics there and I am sure they would know a vet thats more local to you.

Ceramic heating is great for royals as it heats the air which a mat can not do....... the hear from ceramics can be very drying though so i move the water bowl to tha warm end when my snakes start to show signs of shedding, this will boost humidity no end.
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MissCat
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1971 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  09:44:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oo i didnt realise the college kept them! if i had known that sooner... oh well hindsight is a fine thing.
righty oh so when he is on the mend i will change the heating, i will stick with ceramic as i am more familliar with them than the red ones, but i will haveto move him to thebeech one as the glass one is no good for overhead heating, and im beginning to understand that overall it's rubbish for Ra anyways.
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/03/2009 :  09:46:22  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
If you do go for a bulb (infrared or ceramic) you will need a guard to stop the snake coming in contact with it and also either a PP Stat or a Dimming Stat.

You can put heatmats in vivs, but cover it with something like lino to stop the snake from coming into direct contact with it.

As above though, a bulb would be better (if your funds allow).



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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal

1971 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  10:09:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah the cash flow is an issue at the moment but nevermind, i will focus on getiing his health back to somewhere near normality while saving up for the other bits n peices
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wohic
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
8 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  10:48:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lets get Ra back on track and then when the time comes to move him to his new viv I will see what i have got, i should at least have a ceramic bulb and fitting, possibly will have a spare dimmer stat as well.......
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Paulusworm
Fully Grown Royal

Azerbaijan
1550 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  10:54:11  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wohic

i should at least have a ceramic bulb and fitting, possibly will have a spare dimmer stat as well.......



It's amazing what you accumulate over the years. My garage is the same for bike bits.

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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal

1971 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  13:22:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wohic

lets get Ra back on track and then when the time comes to move him to his new viv I will see what i have got, i should at least have a ceramic bulb and fitting, possibly will have a spare dimmer stat as well.......


^_^ thankyou
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  14:15:19  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
However, if you are looking for a Mat Stat for your heatmat, it might be worth spending an extra £10 for a Pulse Proportional Stat that you can use with the mat and also with a Ceramic when you get it set up. Rather than buying 2.



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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal

1971 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  19:29:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just weighed and measured Ra, he weighs 100grams (and is 45.5cm long nose to tip. just going to go check that on the chart...
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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal

1971 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  19:33:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh eep he's REEEEALLy under weight isnt he? :S
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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal

1971 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  19:54:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh sorry to keep bugging people, but does anyone have any idea, if he doesnt have retained eyecaps, how long should it be til they clear up? i know it will be about a week before he sheds after they clear up, but when i had him out earlier to weigh him i noticed that he still has lille bits peeling off him, cant quite figure if this is old shed skin stuck to more shedding skin underneath or what, but im certain it wasnt like that yesterday, either way it doesnt look like he is going to shed in one peice just yet. im getting the shedaid either tomorrow or tuesday so that might help :s
i dont want to start poking around with his eyes with cotton buds or anything til i have tried the shedaid really...
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Blackecho
Royal Python Admin

United Kingdom
11327 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  20:06:41  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
His eyes will clear in a few days.

What chart are you comparing him on? - How old is he?



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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal

1971 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  20:26:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho
What chart are you comparing him on? - How old is he?



http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=369

the chart on there. how much of a numpty will i look if i've misread and it has absolutely nothing to do with average weight/size of royals :s

he is 8 months old
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  20:33:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think piers she is comparng him to 'our' chart....





Edited by - dazb on 08/03/2009 20:41:37
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dazb
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
2847 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  20:38:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok....where are you misscat...!

right im gonna shout at you!!!

stop panicing that you are doing everything wrong... you are asking the right questions and little by little these guys will get you on the right track...




Edited by - dazb on 08/03/2009 20:41:00
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MissCat
Fully Grown Royal

1971 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 :  20:42:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dazb

ok....where are you misscat...!

right im gonna shout at you!!!

stop panicing that you are doing everything wrong... you are asking the right questions and little by little these guys will get you on the right track...please stop...



sorry
i panic, a lot, especially when it's an animal and even more so when essentially it's my fault he's in this state, even though i am trying to rectify it now, that's still no excuse :s
have started the diary on facebook so i can keep track of everything without filling this forum with repetitions LOL
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