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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2012 :  20:09:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I ask this to settle a conflict of ideas between myself and my husband,
Steve reckons that everybody at some time will be bitten by an adult snake. It was sparked by that Anaconda article lol

Is he right?

Not that it'll make any difference, he is quite fond of our two, tho he hates to admit it..a guy thing



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa

Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2012 :  20:21:03  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yes he's right, never buy a snake unless you're 100% prepared to be tagged by it's adult form ^^ Even the tamest snake one day is bound to tag you either from a feeding response or handling too roughly or taking him by surprise or he's shedding and isn't feeling too happy about being touched.
Snakes are very "in the moment" so one day he'll be tame and fine the next he might be moody and then the next fine again ^^ Just something that you should always be ready for :)

I've never been bitten by an adult yet only babies and juveniles, not looking forward to an adult tag ^^ Nor looking forward to my big boa either! :O

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2012 :  20:25:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kelf :)

Wasn't exactly what i'd wished to hear, but I guess in my heart I knew that one day it could happen or rather likely to.
So as an adult, if he hisses it'd be foolhardy to press the point and go for the pick up.



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Posted - 14/01/2012 :  20:36:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If my gopher Ziska carries on like this -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ut8OC41Q84

then yes I will pick her up, just to show her I'm not scared of her, and she won't bite, she'll say, ok Lil, and go and snooze in my sweater for hours lol.

Never known a royal carry on like that - you are more likely to get bitten, if ever, through bad judgement when feeding, like I did ...

http://www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6551&SearchTerms=gore,galore



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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 14/01/2012 :  23:53:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Duke has been very close to biting me in the face once. My own fault I scared him (which is understanding, it was my face). Sanke will bite anything that moves when its feeding time. My corn has struck at me mouth closed, my Gecko has bit me. The only animal in my house that is I can almost definitely say will not bite me is my scorpion, unfortunately it pinches and stings instead.

Its never as bad as you think it will be though, they strike fast, so fast you will not react until its over.


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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2012 :  00:47:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotabob

Duke has been very close to biting me in the face once. My own fault I scared him (which is understanding, it was my face).


Hey you aren't supposed to 2nd guess replies yanno! Particularly mine :P
However weren't gonna say that anyway lol

A fast strike and its over is ok(ish), I think his fear is that an eight foot snake would bite and hang on. I saw the fangs on Pandora..don't fancy those sunk into my flesh. Yeow



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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acd1984
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
687 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2012 :  02:40:55  Show Profile  Click to see acd1984's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
This is something i have thought about too, i was tagged by my george when he was younge and touch wood he didnt like the taste.

i think what worries me most is what will happen once he has tagged, cause i can be quite jumpy at times so i would be more scared of dropping the poor thing.

like kelf says they live in the moment and i think we should too, then if it happens it happens.

when i got tagged by george it actually relaxed me somewhat because the "waiting for it to happen" factor had gone, but then he was only a baby at the time


1.0.0 Lesser - Helios
2.0.0 Normal - George & Kairo
1.0.0 Mojave - Bolt
0.1.0 Mojave - Roxi
1.0.0 Leopard Gecko - Leo
0.0.1 Crocodile gecko - Pheonix

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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2012 :  09:16:45  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bigdon23

i think what worries me most is what will happen once he has tagged, cause i can be quite jumpy at times so i would be more scared of dropping the poor thing.




oh yeah you will jump lol, once anubis tagged me and I jumped so much I accidently sent him somersulting across the bedroom xD

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Laws
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1007 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2012 :  21:18:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i got bit by a "teenage" boa , bled abit but wasnt too painful and Rudi got me once since shes been here and it felt like i was heat butted minimal blood lol . not sure i want one when shes big tho


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markmifsud
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
534 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2012 :  21:38:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had my adult female (2.3kg) tag me in a feeding response, bled like hell, and hurt a fair bit, but more down to shock I think lol

1.1.0 Pastal Ball
1.0.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
0.1.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)

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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator

United Kingdom
5008 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2012 :  21:39:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got bit by a wild Adder as a child, was very painful and I thought my leg was about to drop off but I'm OK now. I know for a fact that my snakes cant inflict anything like that on me so I am just not worried. I was bitten by a gerbil as a kid too, it was so ridiculously painful but I survived again.

A bite from a fully grown Boa is going to hurt, there is no way round that fact, think been punched by Chuck Norris with a fist covered in glass. If they hang on you just have to relax wherever its got you once it realises your not food it will let go. Defensive strikes are over in a split second so before you know its happened you'll be away washing your bloody hand and thinking that the bite marks will be a cool story to tell at work.


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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2012 :  22:37:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Firstly a huge thankyou to everybody that replied, and after reading every post I have reached a conclusion.

I have just watched 'Project Nim' that helped make my mind up:

Now I realise that my ideals won't guarantee never being bitten, but I will not be the antagonist
If on a particular day either Fea or Slinky shows signs of being defensive, aggressive unless for health reasons I will leave them alone, they can't ask in our language, but we can read their body language.
To quote Kelf
quote:
Originally posted by Kelfezond

Snakes are very "in the moment" so one day he'll be tame and fine the next he might be moody and then the next fine again


Personally if I went ahead and picked them up regardless, that would be purely for my ego and not the snake's wellbeing.

I do want to make it clear that I do not mean this to frown upon anybody. Everybody has their own views and I know that everybody here cares deeply for their snakes, I also realise that my knowledge falls far short of those that have replied

I just know that in the past I have done many a foolish thing, simply to face my fears..things like abseiling down 230m into a cave, riding a motorbike in driving snow when I could have stayed home.
So now I have no intensions of ignoring Fea when he clearly wishes to be left alone, just to prove to myself 'hey i'm not afraid of you' when I would be at that moment lol



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Lorraine
Yearling

United Kingdom
480 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2012 :  23:51:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wish I hadn't read this thread!!!

1.0.0 CB11 Normal Royal, Oscar.
1.0.0 German Shepherd, Bailey.



Still lots to learn.

Edited by - Lorraine on 15/01/2012 23:52:24
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  00:00:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol Lorraine, I wish I hadn't asked it



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Smeagol16
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
5 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  13:21:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have always been slightly worried about a bite from my smeagol, but so far 16 years down the line i havnt been bit yet, she has tagged two people, my dad and my brother but she was less then a year old

Bob.h & smeagol the royal
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markmifsud
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
534 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  13:36:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
even when mine have an off day and hiss when I approach, they are ok once picked up, I think its mainly a problem when they have their brains locked into feeding mode

1.1.0 Pastal Ball
1.0.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)
0.1.0 Normal Ball aged 7(ish)

Bromley. SE London
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