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chrisc
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Posted - 18/01/2012 :  06:42:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
im assuming some of you will have heard/read about the python ban that their trying to set in america
http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2009/12/07/547/

no i understand the effect the burms can have on the everglades but why punnish all the good reptile keepers/buissines's for the acts of a few iresponcible ones

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Edited by - chrisc on 18/01/2012 06:45:54

Lotabob
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Posted - 18/01/2012 :  09:32:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
trying? They've succeeded in part. No movement of these animals, no imports, no crossing state lines thats eggs and even snakey sperm included too.

I do have to say that better control is required in a climate that can support these animals, they have to be treated as invasive and as such need to be controlled but I think this disadvantages the responsible keepers due to the irresponsible ones causing so much damage to environments such as the Florida Everglades. As usual though the responsible keepers will stick to the laws and its the irresponsible ones that will break the laws rendering them useless as a control for the irresponsible element.

Good luck to the US policing this too, I dont see how it could be done without VAST amounts of wasted money for very little results.


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Posted - 18/01/2012 :  09:43:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes - this has been going on for some time, I believe. To me it makes no sense, as you say, to boycott a thriving pet industry for the sake of the inevitable irresponsible minority...

Makes me wonder - just how many species of animal not native to a country have gone feral and thrived and become an accepted part of the landscape? I'm not saying this has always been a good thing (like rabbits in Australia for instance) but it happens and as that report says, there is very little evidence that the ecology has been much affected by feral Burmese.

No, imo it boils down to the usual scaremongering about SNAKES - gasp horror - the usual witch-hunt ...

Let's hope the powers that be see sense ...



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JanieW
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Posted - 18/01/2012 :  10:51:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The grey squirrel rings a bell...almost wiped out our native reds



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mystra
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Posted - 18/01/2012 :  14:29:51  Show Profile  Visit mystra's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Knowing politics they're probably using this as a distraction for something else they're up to LOL

But in all seriousness, aren't there a lot of burms knocking about the everglades that escaped during a hurricane hitting a breeder's compound or something? Banning them wont solve the problem, proper management and chipping or something would be the way to go (any escapees can be returned to owners), sadly those who don't want to play ball never will, and ruin it for ever one else :(

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chrisc
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Posted - 19/01/2012 :  18:29:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes they do need to be more careful as more breeds of snake etc can survive in their climate. banning is not the answer chipping an kepping a record of who owns said animal is the way to go an im sure this would be more cost effective than trying to enforce this ban

another vid i found
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/videos/maballs-net-nerd-video/415/

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Posted - 19/01/2012 :  18:49:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ain't that the truth!

With apologies to Laws since I posted this on her similar thread over on Other Pythons -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gaPK3tuOkA (no graphic content)

If I lived in Florida I'd be far more scared of the alligators!

And also the same comment - if this US ban is passed, it will encourage irresponsible owners to dump their big snakes, thus creating the very situation that the ban claims to be preventing ...


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chrisc
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Posted - 19/01/2012 :  19:01:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:


And also the same comment - if this US ban is passed, it will encourage irresponsible owners to dump their big snakes, thus creating the very situation that the ban claims to be preventing ...



yep this is exactly what will happen.

if i lived in florida i would be out all the time watching the alligators an wildlife

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFxrIPJFZc

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Posted - 19/01/2012 :  19:17:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
!!!!

Use feeding tongs!

Otherwise it's going to be an 'armless pastime ...


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chrisc
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Posted - 19/01/2012 :  19:35:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
as much as i would love to get close to an alligator i dont think i would be waving food at a wild one

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Posted - 19/01/2012 :  20:00:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, a thing that size could have scarfed the guy down whole and slurped up the bunch at the picnic table for afters ...well, SLIGHT exaggeration there ...lol.

I once read of a story about some wildlife park in America where bears come to beg food from the tourists ...one enterprising mother smeared honey on her toddler's hand so that when the friendly (all-singing, all-dancing disney type cute) bears waddled over to the picnic site, she could film Mr Bear licking little Johnny's hand ...Fail.


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markmifsud
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Posted - 19/01/2012 :  21:36:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
from what I have read, the ban controls the movement of a few of the larger more dangerous pythons/boa/anaconda etc across state borders. Bear in mind that nearly all of the US states are larger than the UK, it doesnt really restrict the trade that much

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