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acd1984
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03/02/2012 : 12:05:23
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Hi guy's whilst looking up the growth rate of royals, I came across something that states that the larger the enclosure the bigger the snake will grow. I always believed this to be myth but what do you guys think?
Oh and what is the average growth rate of a royal? length and weight i.e. Year 1,2,3 ect
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 12:48:03
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I say myth.
I know fish grow to the size of aquarium, but thats as the larger the aquarium, the greater surface area and so the greater oxygen available.
I have no idea as to the average growth rate, I believe that depends on feeding quantity. |
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Kelfezond
The bearded one
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 12:54:50
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| Yeah it' a myth. A for average growth rate it all depend on feeding, snakes grow depending on their food source so the more you feed the bigger they get. |
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chrisc
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 13:06:18
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Originally posted by JanieW
I say myth.
I know fish grow to the size of aquarium
also a myth. They deform stress out and then die in too small an aquarium but they wont stop growing.
Its a crock A Royals growth rate is controlled part genetics part food available and that's it. |
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 15:24:00
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[quote]Originally posted by Lotabob
also a myth. They deform stress out and then die in too small an aquarium but they wont stop growing.
Well they don't grow if dead lol
 hehe i'm in an awkward mood
I watched a documentary on why the huge dinasaurs died out and all forest beasts got smaller. They reckoned that is was a forests got smaller, less oxygen, less prey for the giant carnivores.
This is a great topic for a full blown debate..I do enjoy a good debate |
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Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
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Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa |
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Lotabob
Royal Python Moderator
United Kingdom
5008 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 19:30:44
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| Oh dont get me started on dino's lol. The fossil records do show a catastrophic collapse of the food chain. And that does line up in time with an asteroid strike. Its quite scary really how one event can change the future of an entire planet. |
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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!
United Kingdom
2279 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 23:01:19
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They discovered fossils of a huge, and I do mean huge herbivores in every area of the world, and an equally enormous carnivore that lived alongside. Some that make the T-Rex look like a pygmy..its fascinating to learn of these animals :)
Where does the snake fit in the chain of evolution? |
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Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa |
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karl
Fully Grown Royal
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 23:16:23
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I think the larger the enclosure the more your snake gets to exercise which means it is more likely to want food. Surely a snake that has spent it's life in an empty rub (think BHP style racking here) which hardly moves doesn't have the ability to USE it's food, so the only growth is fatty growth, which I can't see as being good for the snake in the long run (great for getting morphs out quickly though huh.....)
I still think the whole "it's better for them being in a small enclosure" is total crap made up by large scale breeders who didn't want to be forced to keep them in 3ft vids (as German breeders are forced to with Carpet pythons etc)
Sorry, my little rant against tiny rubs is coming back, I can't help it. |
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Welly
Yearling
United Kingdom
423 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2012 : 10:14:31
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| You can not over rule genentics. We do grow bigger for having more space. |
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paulie78
Hatchling
United Kingdom
97 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2012 : 13:00:37
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Originally posted by Welly
You can not over rule genentics. We do grow bigger for having more space.
Maybe over thousands/millions of years certainly not over a few months or years though i might be new to keeping snakes but ive been keeping tropical fish for years and there are plenty of myths to dispel especially the old fish will only grow to the size of the tank some fish eg clown loaches will become "stunted" if kept in in smaller tanks their organs become compressed and they die at a much younger age because of this also fish such as oscars as youngsters will grow around an inch a month for the first year then start to slow their growth rate but will continue to grow till they reach theyre maximum size regardless of tank size so we call theese fish tankbusters lol |
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