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Leedxmg
Hatchling

51 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2012 :  23:02:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I may have asked this before but,

I have a cb11 male normal. I want to start breeding and produce some cool morphs but after buying my normal male I've came to the realisation that normals generally aren't the best to start breeding with. So, I was thinking of getting a recessive morph breeding them then breeding the offspring back to produce a visual morph? Or on the other hand blow some cash and buy two new snakes and start from there, although I'd prefer not too ;) any advice for a newbie?

0.1.0 Chilean Rose - Sally
1.0.0 Pink-Toe - Penelope
0.0.1 Purple Pink-Toe - Poppy
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Rump - Audrey
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Knee - Jazz
0.0.1 Chaco Golden-Knee
0.0.1 Giant White Knee
1.0.0 Carolina Corn - Barry
1.0.0 Royal Python - Ralph
0.1.0 Cinnamon - Rita

Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2012 :  23:22:55  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You should think about the recessive morph idea carefully because that's a good 6 year + plan you've got, takes a lot of time and effort to breed recessives from normals. Personally I'd go for a co-dom or dom morph first and introduce her to your male when he's old enough, if by then you're still enjoying keeping snakes and you enjoy breeding think about expanding.

Yes I know that's hypocritical of me since I now have a bunch of morphs for breeding and have never bred but still, just advice.

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reptiledanny
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2106 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  06:55:00  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If you want to start with recessives in a way you have done it the right way. You could get a female morph, and breed your make to it. Then keep a male hatchling and you would only then have to wait a year to breed the male back to the mum and get visuals.
But you could start with like kelp said co-doms like pastel, yb, Mohave etc and produce visuals a lot quicker. and then keep a male back and go for the super the next year
It's up to you, it's whatever morphs inspire you most.


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Leedxmg
Hatchling

51 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  06:58:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually that super idea sounds nice, that sounds possible! While we're on this subject how much do cinnamon females and pastel females go for?

0.1.0 Chilean Rose - Sally
1.0.0 Pink-Toe - Penelope
0.0.1 Purple Pink-Toe - Poppy
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Rump - Audrey
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Knee - Jazz
0.0.1 Chaco Golden-Knee
0.0.1 Giant White Knee
1.0.0 Carolina Corn - Barry
1.0.0 Royal Python - Ralph
0.1.0 Cinnamon - Rita
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2265 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  07:17:48  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
cinnys £230-£250
Pastels £150-£200

have a look here on the morph wizard to see what you can do

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Edited by - Evolution Morphs on 09/05/2012 07:21:18
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Leedxmg
Hatchling

51 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  16:20:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds reasonable, I like the look of super cinnys even though there really plain I would love to produce a really dark one, are cinnamons easy enough to get a hold of, availability wise?

0.1.0 Chilean Rose - Sally
1.0.0 Pink-Toe - Penelope
0.0.1 Purple Pink-Toe - Poppy
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Rump - Audrey
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Knee - Jazz
0.0.1 Chaco Golden-Knee
0.0.1 Giant White Knee
1.0.0 Carolina Corn - Barry
1.0.0 Royal Python - Ralph
0.1.0 Cinnamon - Rita
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jonoandapril
Yearling

United Kingdom
455 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2012 :  09:49:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i went with a bee to put to my normal, i like the spiders and pastels so figured id hold them back from breeding normal x bee. that way iv got a couple of nice things to play with then when i grab my next new morph.

1.1.0 corns (amel + carolina)
2.3.0 normal, fire, pastel and 2 bumblebee royals
1.0.0 jungle carpet python
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Leedxmg
Hatchling

51 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2012 :  15:34:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the look of bees aswell but they are much more expensive aren't they? Looking to spend less than £300 to be honest :)

0.1.0 Chilean Rose - Sally
1.0.0 Pink-Toe - Penelope
0.0.1 Purple Pink-Toe - Poppy
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Rump - Audrey
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Knee - Jazz
0.0.1 Chaco Golden-Knee
0.0.1 Giant White Knee
1.0.0 Carolina Corn - Barry
1.0.0 Royal Python - Ralph
0.1.0 Cinnamon - Rita
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2012 :  17:03:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd go for a lesserbee`s or a bumblebee, yes they cost a bit more but you could get a nicer clutch in a couple of years.

Edited by - hodgie on 10/05/2012 20:57:51
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Leedxmg
Hatchling

51 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2012 :  23:16:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah I think if I can't get a cinnamon I'd like something with pastel or maybe yellow belly? I really like the look of the full one colour snakes! :)

0.1.0 Chilean Rose - Sally
1.0.0 Pink-Toe - Penelope
0.0.1 Purple Pink-Toe - Poppy
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Rump - Audrey
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Knee - Jazz
0.0.1 Chaco Golden-Knee
0.0.1 Giant White Knee
1.0.0 Carolina Corn - Barry
1.0.0 Royal Python - Ralph
0.1.0 Cinnamon - Rita
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Leedxmg
Hatchling

51 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2012 :  23:17:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By that ^ I mean two yellowbellys to produce their single colour ivory morph :)

0.1.0 Chilean Rose - Sally
1.0.0 Pink-Toe - Penelope
0.0.1 Purple Pink-Toe - Poppy
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Rump - Audrey
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Knee - Jazz
0.0.1 Chaco Golden-Knee
0.0.1 Giant White Knee
1.0.0 Carolina Corn - Barry
1.0.0 Royal Python - Ralph
0.1.0 Cinnamon - Rita
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hodgie
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1197 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2012 :  17:17:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leedxmg

By that ^ I mean two yellowbellys to produce their single colour ivory morph :)



Thats probably the cheapest and easiest morphs to get.

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