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Paulusworm
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  18:39:15  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ok. Need to pick your brains guys please.

Breeding pair of 100% Het 'binos. Am I right in thinking that:

25% chance of progeny being visual 'bino,
25% chance of progeny being 100% het 'bino
and
50% chance of being normal wild-type.

Cheers
Paul

Blackecho
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  18:41:09  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Close, very close.



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Paulusworm
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Azerbaijan
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  18:46:23  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

Close, very close.



Got my Hets and wild-types back to front haven't I?

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matty18714
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  18:52:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes

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Paulusworm
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  18:57:11  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
OMG. This is scary. I've got an exam on genetic fingerprinting, STR analysis and SNPs in a couple of months. Pass the McDonalds application form please

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Blackecho
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  18:57:38  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Aye, 50% het, 25% Normal



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matty18714
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  19:12:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always mess it up in my head. I have to draw a grid to work it out

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Paulusworm
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  19:30:41  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
So how do you know whether they are 100% Het Albino or wild-type if they both look the same?

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Blackecho
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  19:35:15  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
You don't, hence they are sold as 66% ph.

As 2/3 are het or 66% (66.6666 etc really).



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Paulusworm
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  19:42:29  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
So if a pair are being sold as 100% Het Albino does that mean that they would have been proved through breeding?

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Blackecho
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  19:43:19  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Or they are the offspring of a Homozygous (Visual) and a Normal.



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Paulusworm
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  20:02:35  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackecho

....Homozygous (Visual) and a Normal.


So all of the offspring of this pairing would be either visual or 100% het? No wild-type at all?

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matty18714
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  20:19:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With:

Homozygous (visual) albino x Normal - All will be 100% het albino (look normal), none will be visual.

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Paulusworm
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  20:36:51  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ah. That must be what they are selling then.

Just want to make sure that I have a good chance of producing some 'binos. Most of the breeders down here are selling visuals for a ridiculous amount of money.

Right. Next challenge is to convince the Mrs. Financial proof normally works. Success = shoes. That kind of thing .

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matty18714
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  20:41:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Im prety sure im right, but get someone to check that I am before hand

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Blackecho
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  20:46:43  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Matty's correct.



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Paulusworm
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  20:47:25  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Been looking at the 100% Het Albino pairs for £250 on here:

http://www.royalmorphsforsale.com/page6.htm

Same place I got Sherman from.

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matty18714
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  20:57:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like a good price to me.

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Blackecho
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  22:29:45  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yep, probably about right.



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Paulusworm
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Azerbaijan
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  07:41:20  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yay!!! Jo's up for the idea. Happy days.

Just gotta figure out what I need to get in the way of equipment and what I can build myself now. Just spotted a pair of 100% het piebalds for £500 still up for grabs at DJ Reptiles. What would a visual 'bino x visual piebald give you?

Addicted to reptiles? No, not me .

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matty18714
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  07:59:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice one Paul

I think visual albino x visual Pied = all 100% het for both 'bino and pied/

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