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acd1984
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
687 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  03:19:13  Show Profile  Click to see acd1984's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi guys being lazy I used heatmats with twin channel thermostats for my rack.
Im just wondering what temps I should use? Obviously mat stats don't keep the same temps they have a range, currently I run the mats at 33 high and 30 low if you know what I mean. But when handling the snakes are quite warm so im wondering if I should lower the temp or not?

1.0.0 Lesser - Helios
2.0.0 Normal - George & Kairo
1.0.0 Mojave - Bolt
0.1.0 Mojave - Roxi
1.0.0 Leopard Gecko - Leo
0.0.1 Crocodile gecko - Pheonix

Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  07:41:06  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think this is one of those "what works best for you" kinda question. From listening to several sources, reading up on lots of forums and keeping my own animals I've heard anywhere between 87-95c

I was running at 92-93c max and found that ok, aim for somewhere in the middle and adjust if your snakes show signs that they aren't comfortable

1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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acd1984
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
687 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  20:55:43  Show Profile  Click to see acd1984's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thanks fezza think your right, despite feeling warm non of them have been on the cool side that I have seen, so il just play it by ear and see what's what

1.0.0 Lesser - Helios
2.0.0 Normal - George & Kairo
1.0.0 Mojave - Bolt
0.1.0 Mojave - Roxi
1.0.0 Leopard Gecko - Leo
0.0.1 Crocodile gecko - Pheonix

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konrad1982
Yearling

United Kingdom
235 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2012 :  19:18:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What do you guys think, will heat mat be enough to heat rack in winter time? I work 12 hours shift so when I'm out of the house temp in my room drop a lot. I'm still trying to choose between rack and vivs however vivs take too much room. But if I won't be able to keep temp on the right level there is no point to build a rack.
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Fezza
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1063 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2012 :  19:41:15  Show Profile  Visit Fezza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Classic trade off between the size of vivs and heating a rack system. You could always run a small heater in the room with the door shut to help keep temps up in winter

1.0.0 normal royal
1.0.0 mojave royal
1.0.0 pastel enchi royal
0.1.0 cinnamon royal
0.1.0 pewter royal
0.1.0 genetic stripe royal
0.1.0 lesser goblin royal
0.1.0 phantom royal
0.1.0 Columbian rainbow boa
0.0.1 aru x jaya GTP
0.1.0 bredli
1.0.0 trans pecos rat snake
1.0.0 fat black cat
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acd1984
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
687 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2012 :  20:52:01  Show Profile  Click to see acd1984's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have a cave on the warm side which im sure will keep the air temp slightly higher.






1.0.0 Lesser - Helios
2.0.0 Normal - George & Kairo
1.0.0 Mojave - Bolt
0.1.0 Mojave - Roxi
1.0.0 Leopard Gecko - Leo
0.0.1 Crocodile gecko - Pheonix

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konrad1982
Yearling

United Kingdom
235 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2012 :  23:05:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers Fezza. I thought about heating my room for 24/7 but I don't think I want to see my energy bill after that. I do have only 3 snakes and my room is massive so it could be expensive to heat it up thats why I asked if heat mats would be enough to keep temp on the right level. I'm still looking for any good solution before they grow and hopefully will find some help here.
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Evolution Morphs
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2265 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2012 :  23:10:33  Show Profile  Visit Evolution Morphs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Are the heat mats the same watt and make?

How are you reading the temp ?

I thought when I first got my rack they were different temps
I was using digital thermometers
I now use an IR heat gun and the mats
All read the same give or take 1c

If you don't have a IR heat gun
I'd recommend one
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Edited by - Evolution Morphs on 24/06/2012 23:11:26
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 25/06/2012 :  20:08:08  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you only have 3 snakes have you looked at the viv exotic stacks there 3 high and available in all the lx and vx viv sizes I'll find a link in a minute

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 25/06/2012 :  20:10:47  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This size should do for adult royals

http://www.reptiles.swelluk.com/reptile-supplies/vivariums-416/vivexotic-vivarium-stacks-1381/vivexotic-vx36-viv-stack-3-tier-ellmau-beech-159479.html?ref=shopping&utm_source=product-search&utm_medium=googlebase&sa=X&ei=XbfoT5SpIpOx8QOHt-ybCg&ved=0CFsQgwgwAA

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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konrad1982
Yearling

United Kingdom
235 Posts

Posted - 25/06/2012 :  21:12:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's really nice, thanks. I was thinking about rack as I'm nearly sure I will end up having more snakes and possibly breed them. But even for 5,6,7 or even more heating a whole room seems to be very expensive. I think I will ask about it in a separte topic but I'm quite interested how much you guys pay for your bills having so many snakes.
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carlb1981
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1527 Posts

Posted - 25/06/2012 :  21:41:38  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
im planning on building a rack too as i want to breed eventually and the room i have my snakes in is a disused dinning room which is quite big and gets cold in winter, even now the cold end temps in my viv are only 22-23 degrees so was planning on using one of those oil filled radiators that plug in next no viv or rack to increase the ambient air around them. not sure how much my electric bill will change doing this? i would also be interested in other peoples methods and costs cos surely you all dont heat your whole house to 27 degrees 24/7 in winter lol

3.3.0 Royals,Yellow Belly -Marty,Fire YB-Fred,Mojave-Mo,Butter Pinstripe-Betty,Pewter-Newt,Normal-Molly
0.1.0 Snow Cornsnake- Lumi
1.1.0 Hypo Sonoran Dwarf Boa-Bart and Maggie
0.1.0 Albino Pine Snake-Ruby
1.0.0 Bredli Python-Brian
1.0.0 Western Hognose-Hal
1.0.0 Kayuadi Retic-Kaa
0.1.0 Honduran Milksnake-Jubbly
1.1.0 Salmon Boas-Hershey and Sam
0.2.0 Leopard Geckos-Spot and Chocolate
1.4.0 Dune Geckos
0.1.0 Beardie-Cookie
0.3.7 Tarantulas
0.0.1 Pandinus Imperator/emperor scorpion
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