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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  22:15:18  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
... is not going so well!


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Leedxmg
Hatchling

51 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  22:18:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ahh who bit you!? :)

0.1.0 Chilean Rose - Sally
1.0.0 Pink-Toe - Penelope
0.0.1 Purple Pink-Toe - Poppy
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Rump - Audrey
0.1.0 Mexican Red-Knee - Jazz
0.0.1 Chaco Golden-Knee
0.0.1 Giant White Knee
1.0.0 Carolina Corn - Barry
1.0.0 Royal Python - Ralph
0.1.0 Cinnamon - Rita
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  22:19:41  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Pilkington my new boa :/ nasty little piece of work he is lol

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Pythonwizard
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
650 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  22:22:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not taking good to you but a least he is with pandora
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  22:23:58  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Very true, I had to get him out the viv to feed Pandora, he wrapped around a platform leg and a log and wouldn't let go so I had to wrestle him away all the while using a snake hook to keep Pandora away as she was hungry, so exciting xD

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Pythonwizard
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
650 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  22:25:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How was the both of them when you first introduced them ?
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  22:29:29  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
They got on great, was really surprising I've had snakes in together before, once with two royal males who had to share while a viv broke, again with mating pairs but I've never seen two snakes get on so well, Pilkington follows Pandora around all the time almost as if he was afraid of the new big viv, after three days they finally seperated and Pilkington claimed the platform, Pandora the floor.

Today was the only sign of any "aggression" and I use that term loosely it was more Pandora opening up her lady parts and annoying Pilkington for sex while Pilkington was too busy sleeping and kept moving away from her :P

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Pythonwizard
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
650 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  22:35:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha sounds like you might have some more baby boas before you know it
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 20/06/2012 :  23:34:01  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hope so! :D

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austin_89
Fully Grown Royal

United Kingdom
1248 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2012 :  08:11:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope so :-)

1.1.0 Normal Royal Pythons... Kane (CF11) + Frankie (CB11)
1.0.0 Spider Royal Python (CB13)
1.0.0 100% het kahl albino boa Dexter (CB13)
1.0.0 Butter Corn...
0.1.0 Snow Corn... Alice
0.1.0 Red Harlequin Crested Gecko... Charlie
0.1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko... Cleo
1.1.0 African Green Mantis
1.0.0 Staffy... Alfie
1.1.0 Cats... Ebony and DK

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2012 :  09:05:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure if keeping them together permantly will work Kelf, for two reasons.

Keeping with a female, I suspect he will revert to natural behaviour, and there's no place for human handling in the wild.

A planned hatching is fine, allows you to make some arrangements for sales, but if kept togther surely the amount of babies would be surplus to sale possibilities. You had problems selling Pandora's first hatchlings and the costs involved substantial.



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2012 :  09:32:29  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Since I have put them in together Pandora has only become more friendly towards me, I've been amazed in her change of behavior. Pilkington is always an aggressive boa that's why he was so cheap - some snakes just have an attitude.
Pandora is a very big girl, she could safely handle two litters within a single year without any health problems so there is no health risk to her by being constantly available to mate.
Her last offspring were difficult to sale due to the fact that I needed them sold a.s.a.p, they were a surprise and I had to first loan a lot of money to build a rack and secondly find the money to feed and house them all (buying hides and water bowls etc.) I now have everything I needed as well as the nice bonus of actually knowing if my snake is carrying babies or not, anything they yield will be 100% het for kahl strain albino which will aid in the selling, I've put thousands of pounds into Kelfezond Reptiles since I got Pandora's first litter and I'm certainly ready to deal with 40 baby boa constrictors now :)

Thanks for your input though I did think about these things primarily, and of course I'll always have a viv ready for him should Pandora show signs of laying or anything happen between the two :)

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2012 :  09:41:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*smiles* Then Kelf I foresee no major issues. You have all the equipment needed, and the time to spend especially as its your business, breeding snakes :)
We all know that Boas are the bestest snakes, so yep baby boas can only be good.



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2012 :  09:42:38  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JanieW

*smiles* Then Kelf I foresee no major issues. You have all the equipment needed, and the time to spend especially as its your business, breeding snakes :)
We all know that Boas are the bestest snakes, so yep baby boas can only be good.



Haha I just wish it was a business that yielded enough profit for me to quit my job! Maybe one day, I think next year will be my first real year breeding, I should have a good 2 or 3 royal clutches then and hopefully these two boa's. I really miss some of those baby boa's from the last clutch, will definitely be keeping one from the next clutch that's for sure!

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JanieW
Old Royal - I Post too much!

United Kingdom
2279 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2012 :  09:50:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was thinking, if you want to be a full time breeder, have you considered breeding something less common in the local pet trade?

Morphs are great, but not in the average budget, a good steady income could be generated by sales of hognoses, corns, rat snakes etc. and keep producing Royals and Boas for the higher payout.



Peoples Of Middle Earth:
Bert (Staffy) , named after Tolkien's stone Troll
Popeye, African Grey
Gimli (Son Of Gloin), Baby Beardie
Slinky, Baby Royal Python
Fëanor..Baby Mexican Common Boa
Casper 2011 Male Ghost Corn Snake **RIP**
Hoard of Orcs (Dubia Roach Colony)
Pearl & Ivory--African Giant Albino Land Snails
Ra, Taiwanese Beauty Snake
Henry, Western Hognose *Missing*
Pippin, Coastal X Diamond Carpet Python
Elanor, Pastel Royal
Timmy, Western Hognose
Flake, Calico male royal, Eowyn, Arabesque Boa
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Kelfezond
The bearded one

United Kingdom
4803 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2012 :  09:54:36  Show Profile  Visit Kelfezond's Homepage  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I considered it but I really don't have a lot of room to breed so I generally want to stick to what I'm specializing in, I only have one room for breeding and it's quite a small room. Although I did promise myself that I'd get another breeding pair of something soon (possibly GTP's or Amazon tree boa's)

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