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konrad1982
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  11:11:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What would be the easiest way to make my snakes eat rats? One of them is adult male who was on rats for about 12 months. After 6 months winter break the only food he wants to eat are mice. If I don't offer him a mouse, he won't eat. When I offer him a rat he don't want to even smell it. Another one is my 130g female - exactly the same think. She won't miss one feed once mice offered. When I try with rat I always have to offer it to my other female. I was trying to keep those rat with mice just to give them some smell but it never worked. Braining don't work either. What else could I try?

carlb1981
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  11:24:06  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How do you prepare your food?

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konrad1982
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  15:27:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tried two different ways. First one, I defrost them and when they are ready I warm them up with hair dryer. The second one,I put them in plastic bag and defrost them in warm water. None of these methods work. But when I offer them mice they may be prepared any way and they will be gone within seconds.
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boomslang
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  21:40:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by konrad1982

I tried two different ways. First one, I defrost them and when they are ready I warm them up with hair dryer. The second one,I put them in plastic bag and defrost them in warm water. None of these methods work. But when I offer them mice they may be prepared any way and they will be gone within seconds.

Id let them defrost over time,rather then in warm water.
Keep trying with rats each week and only rats,blast the rats nose/face with the hair dryer.

Also try scenting the rat with the mice.Try leaving the snake in a feeding tub with the rat for 10/15 mins.
Also how big are these rats your trying to feed?

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konrad1982
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  21:55:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was trying all different sizes of rats - from tiny to small adult. I'm ready to keep trying with rats but will that be ok for small 150g female?
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boomslang
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  22:04:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by konrad1982

I was trying all different sizes of rats - from tiny to small adult. I'm ready to keep trying with rats but will that be ok for small 150g female?

No harm in trying on and of,Just keep trying peoples tips.You can defrost a rat and mice each week.

or just try afew weeks of just rats.as long as you keep on eye on her weight.

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konrad1982
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  22:24:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will try, thanks. It is too annoying when 1000g royal strike 25g mouse.
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carlb1981
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  22:38:17  Show Profile  Visit carlb1981's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I let mine defrost in plastic bag with my corns mouse and when they are ready i heat them up in the bag submerged in hot tap water for 10 mins then dab dry in kitchen roll then heat head with a hairdryer blowing the scent into his viv to get him interested and he strikes as soon as i wiggle it in front of him. When i first bought him he wouldn't even sniff a rat and wouldn't even strike a mouse i had to leave it in with him over night but when i tried this way he struck 1st time

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boomslang
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Posted - 08/07/2012 :  01:17:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by konrad1982

Will try, thanks. It is too annoying when 1000g royal strike 25g mouse.

He might be harder to convert over,As he's been on mice all this time.So the faster you convert the female the better.She should take a rat in time without to much messing around.

With the 1000g male don't offer mice for awhile,then when you do offer food try a same size rat,thats close in size to his mice.Try scenting it,and super heating it's head.You could also try covering the rat in mice blood

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konrad1982
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Posted - 08/07/2012 :  09:35:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The thing is - he was on rats for about 12 months and after 6 or 7 months break with eating I was offering him rats and mice. Only mice were good to him so I gave him a few and then tried back with rats. But every time I was giving him rat instead of mouse he was not striking.
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boomslang
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Posted - 08/07/2012 :  19:01:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by konrad1982

The thing is - he was on rats for about 12 months and after 6 or 7 months break with eating I was offering him rats and mice. Only mice were good to him so I gave him a few and then tried back with rats. But every time I was giving him rat instead of mouse he was not striking.

Oh right,So he stopped feeding full stop? and to get him feeding again you tried mice? If he's taken rats before he should do again.Just offer him rats only and stick with it.

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LittlestarRed
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Posted - 09/07/2012 :  13:06:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Everyone else has covered my tips: Super heating, scenting etc.

Just don't give up trying!

With your little female I would recommend trying a rat pup heated up super hot and brained, it may be gross but that method has worked for me with 3 little ones who were mouse only or non feeders!

Good Luck!

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